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fermy
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Let's face it, this is not speculating on bread for the starving. Most people on this board have about 10x the number of lenses anyone can possibly need. There are thousands of quality lenses that can be had for very reasonable prices. To me the quoted $600 for the Helios is laughable, for 200 Euros, yeah, I am interested. However, if there are people that are ready to buy at $600, then the asking price is correct.
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Lightshow
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:45 am Post subject: |
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No way in hell I'm going to pay 100% markup. I can wait.
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| fermy wrote: | | Let's face it, this is not speculating on bread for the starving. Most people on this board have about 10x the number of lenses anyone can possibly need. There are thousands of quality lenses that can be had for very reasonable prices. To me the quoted $600 for the Helios is laughable, for 200 Euros, yeah, I am interested. However, if there are people that are ready to buy at $600, then the asking price is correct. |
..and anyway the lens is probably better than most photographers 
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hoanpham
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| Excalibur wrote: | | fermy wrote: | | Let's face it, this is not speculating on bread for the starving. Most people on this board have about 10x the number of lenses anyone can possibly need. There are thousands of quality lenses that can be had for very reasonable prices. To me the quoted $600 for the Helios is laughable, for 200 Euros, yeah, I am interested. However, if there are people that are ready to buy at $600, then the asking price is correct. |
..and anyway the lens is probably better than most photographers |
True. But I feel more confident with gears 
$600 is way to high for my budget for this lens.
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rawhead
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| fermy wrote: | | Let's face it, this is not speculating on bread for the starving. Most people on this board have about 10x the number of lenses anyone can possibly need. There are thousands of quality lenses that can be had for very reasonable prices. To me the quoted $600 for the Helios is laughable, for 200 Euros, yeah, I am interested. However, if there are people that are ready to buy at $600, then the asking price is correct. |
Sure, the price is *always* right as long as there are buyers. On Ebay, they're still going for $750-$800 
BUT, the main points about this news are that (1) KMZ is producing these lenses again, and (2) they're setting the price a much more decent price point in comparison to the inflated Ebay "going" rate.
If there are people out there who are going to the factory and buying up all the stock to keep the flow of the new batches less than a trickle so that they can continue to resell these at the current inflated prices, then that really defies the reasons why people like me are excited about this new.
Hell, I paid $500 for a moderately beat up 40-2 several months ago (after having stupidly sold a near perfect sample at $350 or thereabouts a few years prior), I'd probaby pay $600 for a LNIB copy. HOWEVER, as I understand that doing so would be feeding and encouraging this kind of act, so I wouldn't purchase it, if only on principle.
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Pinkerator
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:22 am Post subject: |
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About 600$ - guys, you could offer cost that you like in private messages.
This is a cost for first months because it's really really hard to buy lenses right now. When enough lenses will be produced - the price will drop and I'll write you a message about it. I just need to know how much people want to have that lens in collection. |
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enliten
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are there any reviews out yet?
I'm interested in knowing if there are newer coatings, good build quality, etc.
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padam
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I am getting one, as I found a distant friend who works close to the shop and can buy one for me when they are available (argh if I came up with this a bit quicker I would have got the discount as well...)
But it will take some time till I can get them. |
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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I think all posts by fresh members should be blocked in this topic . The thing is already strange enough.
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zenit55
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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This lens looks cool, but for me a part of the appeal of these soviet lenses is not only they are good, but also there is no more soviet union, so there would never be any more true soviet era lenses. Might be a bit silly but that's my opinion.
I'd pay 400-500 for an old one in great shape, but most I'd pay for modern one would be $350. I bet soon they will manufacture a bunch of them and they will be readily available like the zenitars and mirs they currently produce. |
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padam
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it might be a little risky to get one without knowing how similar it is to the older versions, but at least I don't have to worry about dust just yet.
And it is autumn and from what I saw it seems like a really good "autumn portrait lens" so I hope to get it working soon. It will be my first manual lens and from what I gathered it is not so easy to handle so it's going to be a real challenge |
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Attila
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| fermy wrote: | | Let's face it, this is not speculating on bread for the starving. Most people on this board have about 10x the number of lenses anyone can possibly need. There are thousands of quality lenses that can be had for very reasonable prices. To me the quoted $600 for the Helios is laughable, for 200 Euros, yeah, I am interested. However, if there are people that are ready to buy at $600, then the asking price is correct. |
+1 I had/have all version in past and present not worth at all for 600 USD.
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Attila
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| zenit55 wrote: | This lens looks cool, but for me a part of the appeal of these soviet lenses is not only they are good, but also there is no more soviet union, so there would never be any more true soviet era lenses. Might be a bit silly but that's my opinion.
I'd pay 400-500 for an old one in great shape, but most I'd pay for modern one would be $350. I bet soon they will manufacture a bunch of them and they will be readily available like the zenitars and mirs they currently produce. |
+1 I respect also those what are part if history and not actual product.
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nukemall
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:05 am Post subject: |
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Brand new Helios-40-2:
Price(see sales slip at right) is 8041rub., about $260 |
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Sirrith
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Pinkerator wrote: | About 600$ - guys, you could offer cost that you like in private messages.
This is a cost for first months because it's really really hard to buy lenses right now. When enough lenses will be produced - the price will drop and I'll write you a message about it. I just need to know how much people want to have that lens in collection. |
The only problem with your reasoning is that it might be really hard to buy it, but its still only costing you $260 from the store. Just because you can't buy 20 at a time doesn't make it more expensive for you.
A lot of us are interested in this lens, as are many others around the internet, and we would be more than willing to pay a fair price for it. |
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