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Production resumed Helios 40-2, Zenitar, TeleZenitar
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
the Helios 40-2 at this price will be irresistible!

fermy wrote:
Yep, that's MIR 20 3.5/20mm, for 190 Euros.


right, at this store the Mir 47 f2.5/20 sells and has been selling for less than 200 USD:
http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/lens-mc-mir-47m.htm
The f3.5 is not offered now, it used to be more expensive, but if I remember right 249 usd?


PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:
the Helios 40-2 at this price will be irresistible!

I would like to own a copy myself!

It's off topic, but I see a lot of CA/PF from the mir. More samples in another thread?


PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Metalluga wrote:
Shipment to Europe with EMS (express mail service) With tracking is 2005 rubles + 150 rubles box and packaging film 15 rubles . Total 2170 rubles or 54 euros, or 70.4 USD
Insurance 0.6% of the amount

prepayment with paypal


That's not to bad for express.

Does anyone know of a reliable Escrow service that will deal with this?


PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is actually not that surprising news, if they have continued producing Cyclops all this time.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kansalliskala wrote:
This is actually not that surprising news, if they have continued producing Cyclops all this time.

This is not a Cyclops, this is Helios. In Cyclops same optical design, but no a drive aperture, Cyclops can shoot only open aperture.

Someone will be able to visit the exhibition PHOTOKINA - 2012 it is likely that there will be shown under the Helios 40-2 bayonet EF, F, K.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Metalluga wrote:

Someone will be able to visit the exhibition PHOTOKINA - 2012 it is likely that there will be shown under the Helios 40-2 bayonet EF, F, K.


Great news for me - and I think for most manual lens lover!

I visit the Photokina this weekend. And I love to see all the interessting new things there. The new Zenit/KMZ lenses are very interessting. I do not plan to buy one - I already have a Helios 40.
Now let´s see if the new lens is the same - and what price drop result this get for the old Helios 40-2 (do not plan to sell mine).

And I wait how long it will take until someone will produce a Meyer Trioplan 100 bokeh copy Smile


PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Metalluga wrote:
kansalliskala wrote:
This is actually not that surprising news, if they have continued producing Cyclops all this time.

This is not a Cyclops, this is Helios. In Cyclops same optical design, but no a drive aperture, Cyclops can shoot only open aperture.


Yes I know. I meant that if the optical lenses are even somewhat same, then production could be much easier to start again?

edit: "optical lenses" Smile


PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow prices of used Helios 40-2 will drop like crazy on ebay. It's $260 before discount and it's brand new. Why would anyone buy used ones at $400? I'm I didn't win my auction on Helios 40-2 couple months ago.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So aside from having personal contacts in Russia, is there any way for us poor overseas chaps to get one of these helios 40 beauties? Smile


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes I feel a group buy coming along Razz

Scratch me up for a Helios 40 too! to. er two. er too. .. .. as well!

Is anyone at the show this year? Someone in Germany, go 'ave a look!


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Can count me for a Group buy too. Providing it has good IQ and the same rendering as older versions.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lightshow wrote:
Can count me for a Group buy too. Providing it has good IQ and the same rendering as older versions.


Same here.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm in for the group buy depending on final price Smile


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm in too...


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Count me in.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Helios-40-2 of the same quality materials if produced today would have price of at least 750 EUR. Minimum.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pancolart wrote:
Helios-40-2 of the same quality materials if produced today would have price of at least 750 EUR. Minimum.

I think the production cost will be much expensive than the old date. Let's see if the final price is attractive to us. Wink


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Metalluga, you should send a link to this thread to the factory management. I would suspect they could double their sales by selling internationally, but they would need to get the word out.

PS: Word got out on other forums too: http://www.mu-43.com/f40/russian-lens-production-starts-up-again-33267/


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pancolart wrote:
Helios-40-2 of the same quality materials if produced today would have price of at least 750 EUR. Minimum.

How do you know this?


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sirrith wrote:
Pancolart wrote:
Helios-40-2 of the same quality materials if produced today would have price of at least 750 EUR. Minimum.

How do you know this?

It's an estimate. Imagine Samyang with thicker, solid materials and whole different production process.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmmm. Weren't the Helios-40-2s going for like $100 back in the early 90s? I find it hard to believe that would now cost 750€ to manufacture.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
rawhead wrote:
Hmmm. Weren't the Helios-40-2s going for like $100 back in the early 90s? I find it hard to believe that would now cost 750€ to manufacture.

Probably average monthly wage was also $100 at the time. Factory today wouldn't be a part of Soviet conglomerate, exchanging materials, sharing resources,
partly working for military purposes, getting it's revenue from state no matter the real production costs.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pancolart wrote:
rawhead wrote:
Hmmm. Weren't the Helios-40-2s going for like $100 back in the early 90s? I find it hard to believe that would now cost 750€ to manufacture.

Probably average monthly wage was also $100 at the time. Factory today wouldn't be a part of Soviet conglomerate, exchanging materials, sharing resources,
partly working for military purposes, getting it's revenue from state no matter the real production costs.

The main specialization of the plant is the same: The military and space optics. Following the statement by President of Russia V.V. Putin, that it is necessary to develop a civil optics in Russia. The plant has received funds and financing items. Just because of this, there was the marketing department photos)
And, of course, the marketing department could not help but notice the popularity of Helios 40-2. because equipment stored in the hangar of the plant, it was not difficult to resume production )))

Because in Helios 40-2 not used Fluorite and UD Lenses, its cost is low.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am going to get one copy of 40-2 as soon as I get some detailed info or tests. I am agree with Metalluga and I am sure they could provide excellent quality lenses for reasonable price. I am not going to visit Moscow in the next 2-3 weeks but I wish visiting that shop so much Smile Hope to see some shots at least. Also I believe they really could make a new lens series based on different designes already developed in USSR.

BTW. They do have a basic international section on their website:
http://www.zenit-foto.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=426&Itemid=143
Banner says "Foreign trade" so I believe it is very likely they will ship abroad.

PPS. Looking on their services I fund the following section:
....
On demand optical elements production.
Herein OJSC KMZ a new technological equipment produced by «Optotech» (Germany) has been implemented. This equipment is for precision spherical, aspherical, cylindrical, planar type and prizmatic optical elements.
....

They are also surely could manufacture an apochromatic optics. So this is just wonderful.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
New 16mm Zenitar 16mms are 199USD here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FishEye-MC-Zenitar-f-2-8-16mm-Minolta-AF-Sony-Alpha-New-/150556751240?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item230de1b588#ht_4650wt_1163
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