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Katastrofo
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| Bob wrote: | Well to tell the truth the first photo caught my attention. How did he do that? Luck, skill, all of the above. Any way a great capture.  |
Bob, Orio just cut and pasted the flag on a cloud background like we
wouldn't know! 
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Orio
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| Bob wrote: | | Well to tell the truth the first photo caught my attention. How did he do that? Luck, skill, all of the above. Any way a great capture. |
Thanks Bob.
It is much easier than my ego would like to admit after all these quite undeserved technical praises.
It only takes these simple steps:
1) Look where they approximately throw their flags and prefocus there;
2) Be fairly distant from the subject (at least 10 mt): the farther you are, the deeper your DOF is;
3) Don't use a tele, they are not needed and the longer the focal lenght, the harder your work is, because your DOF gets narrower and you increasingly need faster shooting times and a faster reaction time. Use a standard lens (around 50mm);
4) stop down - f/8 is enough if you follow what's in point 2 and 3; use fast times - I used 1/250 to be safe, but you can manage with slower also if you are able to pick the second when the ascending force ends and the flag seems still in the air, before the force of gravity pulls it down. Sacrifice the ISO if necessary (it usually isn't as there is plenty of light up there)
5) Try to anticipate the action and click a moment before you expect the ideal moment to happen - this is a key to all action photograph not just this one
So as you can see I am no wizard.
I believe that if there is any merit, it is mostly in the concept (which as I said I "borrowed" from Magritte) not in the execution - there were about 20 other photographers there but not one of them that I could see, ever shoot at the flags in the air, they were only concerned with the human action. But see, I am a fan of the "lateral thinking" 
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| katastrofo wrote: |
Bob, Orio just cut and pasted the flag on a cloud background like we
wouldn't know!
Bill |
Bill: you got me.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| katastrofo wrote: | Orio,
In the picture of the wistful, longing, lady...are those artifacts or is it
starting to rain?
Carsten, it's "nice, nice, very nice" if you're quoting Kurt Vonnegut jr
Bill |
Normally I hate quoting myself, but Kurt Vonnegut died yesterday same
day I wrote this. A little bit eerie...
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, Bill!
No, I was quoting LucisPictor, because I often say that.
But it is strange that a person passes away the day you're quoting him. 
Please, do never quote me! 
Carsten
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| LucisPictor wrote: | Hi, Bill!
No, I was quoting LucisPictor, because I often say that.
But it is strange that a person passes away the day you're quoting him.
Please, do never quote me!
Carsten |
Carsten, I've made a note on that! It's strange, "nice, nice, very nice"
is from a couplet of his "Cat's Cradle" and an LA rock group, Ambrosia,
did a hit song in 1975 by the same name based on Vonnegut's work.
Di Caprio has bought the rights to Cats Cradle to be made into a movie.
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Wow, Orio!
Such vivid colours!!!
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Sets:
Leica M8 - Voigtländer Heliar 4.5/15 & Ultron 2/28 & Ultron 1.7/35 & Heliar 2.5/75, Leica Summitar 2/50 & Elmar 4/90, Jupiter-3, Jupiter-8,
Sony NEX-7 / NEX-3 - Tamron 2.5/24, Pentax-110 2.8 (18/24/50/70), Fujian CCTV 1.7/35, Hexanon 1.8/40 & 1.4/57, Schneider-Kreuznach Tele-Xenar 3.8/75, Zuiko 2.8/100, Leica Hektor 4.5/135, Sony SEL 2.8/16 & 18-55 OSS & 55-210 OSS, Sigma EX 2.8/19 & 2.8/30
Canon EOS 5D - Zenitar 2.8/16, Rokkor 2/28, Summicron-R 2.0/50, Nikkor-SC 1.2/55, Nikkor 1.8/85, Tamron 2.5/135, Elmar 4/180, Tamron 8/500,
Tamron 2.8-3.8/35-80, Sigma EX 15-30, Sigma 1.8/24, Canon EF 1.8/50, Tokina AT-X Pro 24-200 (EOS), Sigma 70-300
Canon EOS 300D - Steinheil 2.8/35, Zuiko 1.4/50, Helios-44 2/58, Jupiter-9 2/85, Vivitar S1 2.3/135
Nikon D1 & Fuji S2 Pro - Tamron 2.5/28, MIR 2/35, Jupiter-37 3.5/135, Soligor 3.5/70-220, Tamron 18-200
Nikon D3100 - Nikkor AF-S 18-55VR, AF-S 18-70, AF-S 55-200
Ricoh KR10x - Pentax-M 1.7/50, Rikenon 3.4-4.5/35-70
Nikon F - Nikkor 2.8/24, Nikkor-SC 1.4/50 a.s.a.
Asahi Spotmatic SPII: CZJ Flek 4/20, Tamron 3.5/35-70, Industar 3.5/5cm, Mamiya 1.8/55
EXA Varex - CZJ Biogon 2/58
Leica IIIa syn & Zorki-4 - (LTM lenses)
Leica C2, Minox 35 GL,Yashica Electro 35 GS, Kodak Retina Ia, Agfa Super Silette, Vivitar Ultra Wide & Slim, Adox Golf 66 and some others...
Sigma DP1s, Leica Digilux 2, Lumix LC-5 & FX37, Lumix FZ20, Canon G2, Sony Mavica 300, Fuji 4800Z + 4900Z, Oly C3030, Pentax Optio S, Nikon CP950, Sony V1 & F505 a.s.m.
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