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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
Just got to see the report. Well done, Carsten. Lotsa thanks. |
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Ah, one more thing:
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If you ever get the chance (and the money) to buy this cam, go for it!
I have never seen such an excellent and bright viewfinder (and I have used a Leica M3 and M6TTL once).
With this Zeiss RF, I had the impression that the view through the viewfinder was brighter than the real view I had! |
What I don't like at Zeiss Ikon RF is the place where is the rewind lever (on the bottom plate). Truth is I don't like any cameras with any controls underneath. That unlocking rewind button is enough (I like more the Zenit solution to this). _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
I'm saving for the Contax R-series....but that Zeiss Ikon is tempting too... _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
OK gentlemen, here is a really professional report. This guy has spent several days (!) at the Photokina and got really close:
http://www.dfarkas.blogspot.com/
Enjoy! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks Carsten for the link.
That review is full of information, but yours really made me feel like being there, so I still vote for yours!!
There is a very interesting bit of information reg. the new Zeiss ZE lenses.
I quote from original text:
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Also learned they are slightly different optical formulas (than ZF lenses for Nikon). The low pass filters used in Canons are quite different than those in Nkons, so the lens design had to be modified to properly focus on the Canon sensor. |
So it seems that for a Canon user, it will not be the same to buy a ZE lens or it's ZF equivalent.
I find it very interesting that Zeiss changed the optical scheme to fit the Canon cameras at best.
If anything else, it shows one basic difference that runs between them and other generic lens makers: care. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
If anything else, it shows one basic difference that runs between them and other generic lens makers: care. |
Very true, Orio! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
This news will cause me to consider a camera controlled aperture for the first time _________________ Moderator |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:15 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Carsten
I have been away for a few days and this is the first thread I went to = terrific presentation and thank you for spending so much time putting it together
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Photokina 2008 |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Thanks for the excellent show report! Very helpful, nice photos, links to high res versions. Great.
LucisPictor wrote: |
They had very friendly staff there as well.
Shot with the brand new stabilized Tamron 18-270.
Next, I went to Tokina and tested the 16-50. They had a small stand and were not very friendly.
Tokina 16-50 @18mm
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Male booth bunnies, what were they thinking! Very unfreindly.
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Then I came to one of the biggest stand of all: Sony. My target here was the Alpha900. When I had shot some pics with it, I thought: "Wow! What a fantastic cam!" It really feels like a pro cam and the viewfinder is amazing, absolutely amazing! I think it seems brighter than the one of the 5D. ...
Today, when I had a look at the Alpha shots, I was put back to reality: the ISO1000 performance of the copy I had is not as good as I have expected from a full frame cam. The Zeiss lens is excellent without discussion.
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Nikon was widely expected to put this 24MPx sensor into a D3-upgrade body. Indeed they shipped a D3 firmware update at one point which mentioned this resolution ...
I see that Nikon evaluated, and rejected, this sensor. Sony needs to improve it befoe Nikon will use it:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=29576144
and
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=29580081 _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list)
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Photokina 2008 |
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LucisPictor wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote: |
Thanks for the excellent show report! Very helpful, nice photos, links to high res versions. Great. |
My pleasure. I mean, really!
ChrisLilley wrote: |
Male booth bunnies, what were they thinking! Very unfreindly. |
" booth bunnies" - never have heard that before.
ChrisLilley wrote: |
I see that Nikon evaluated, and rejected, this sensor. Sony needs to improve it befoe Nikon will use it:
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No wonder. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Photokina 2008 |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
ChrisLilley wrote: |
Male booth bunnies, what were they thinking! Very unfreindly. |
" booth bunnies" - never have heard that before. |
booth bunny (BOOTH bun.ee) n. A model hired to work in a company's booth during a trade show.
Apparently the term originated from this sort of bunny
_________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I thought so. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Photokina 2008 |
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Orio wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote: |
Apparently the term originated from this sort of bunny
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I suddenly developed an interest for rodents! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
_________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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