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Pentacon 6 wiith Velvia 50
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Pentacon 6 wiith Velvia 50 Reply with quote

I am amazed at the possibilities of the medium format when a good film like the Velvia 50 is used.
This downsized sample really is not fair to what is the quality of the output:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/333/velviareszdyl7.jpg

But can give at least an idea of the richness of tones, the quality of detail, and the great dynamic range, which is impressive for being a positive film.
I have not used a polarizer or a gradation filter, this is simply the Biometar 80mm with nothing attached.

With Pentacon 6 cameras available nowadays for as little as 50 Euros (that is what I paid my second copy), and with lenses like Volna-3 2.8/80 available for as little as 20-30 Euros, I think that any manual photography lover should not be without one. With 70-80 Euros you can start using a system that maybe is not the state of professional MF art (let's take away the maybe), but can give just the same amazing results, great lots of fun, and negatives you can print wall posters from.


PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great shot. Those are really nice colors Cool


PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes! They feel so real when seen in transparency!
So much that I would like to have a 6x6 projector.


PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice, Orio! Luv that deep cerulean sky...

Bill


PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
Very nice, Orio! Luv that deep cerulean sky...

Bill


It could have been even better if I had a UV filter on.
I didn't, and it clearly shows with the haze.


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's two other pictures from the same roll, Castle of Vigoleno, the lens here is the MIR-26B 3.5/45:

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/4113/velviacas3reszdbx9.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7097/velviacas4reszdwj9.jpg


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incredible blue sky, yeah this is Italy!


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hummmm, does it make me shallow to say I like these last two, better?
Laughing Wow, luv those colors!

Bill


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the subject of the last two is more interesting, the first one is little more than a test Smile

The MIR lens is not of the same quality as the Zeiss.
So the details in the last two pictures are not as good.
The previous photo was taken with a Zeiss Biometar, which is a very sharp lens stopped down.
If you look at the details in the soil in the first picture you can imagine (in spite of resize) the kind of detail at 100%

I also have the Flektogon but it's 50mm instead of the 45mm of the MIR
The difference is small but significant, 28mm equivalent for the MIR against the 31mm equivalent of the Flektogon.

Also my Flek is not multicoated. It's the Zebra version.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't matter, I still like the last 2 better... Smile

Bill


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
It doesn't matter, I still like the last 2 better... Smile

Bill


This castle is small but it's a fantastic place for photographs.
When I will find nice models, I will make series of "ambiented portraits" here.

BTW how do you name those portraits that are not in studio, but are located in an environment, and the subject interacts with it?
I tried "ambiented portraits" which is literal translation from Italian, but I am almost sure it's not good for English.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The contrast between sky and building is awesome!


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
The contrast between sky and building is awesome!


It was a very saturated day, in spite of some haze in the distance.
It was easy to take good pictures, it's easy when the weather is like this Wink


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote:
The contrast between sky and building is awesome!


It was a very saturated day, in spite of some haze in the distance.
It was easy to take good pictures, it's easy when the weather is like this Wink


Perhaps, but no one helped you hold the camera and push the shutter
release... Razz


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I had 30mins free from work and wanted to test the second camera.
So i went out in the park, but then found out that I forgot the light meter at home. I was using the pit viewer not the pentaprism, so I had no meter with me. I had to meter the light by guesstimate.
Who knows what will come out! Rolling Eyes


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I've done that, used the "Sunny 16" rule. Some came out fairly
good, too.


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
Hey, I've done that, used the "Sunny 16" rule. Some came out fairly
good, too.


I did most photos I took in Barcelona in 1987 that way.
I had a Zeiss Super Ikonta, one of those folding cameras.
gorgeous model
Tessar lens.
The meter was not working well, so I did meter by guesstimate.
But it's super easy in Barcelona, they always have the same weather! Laughing


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesss, the SOLINAR lens! Yeah, I'm looking for one...


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
Yesss, the SOLINAR lens! Yeah, I'm looking for one...


Solinar?
No no.... pure Carl Zeiss lens. REAL Pre-war model (not like when we say "this is pre-war" and it's really of the 50s Laughing )
Carl Zeiss was not yet (obviously) separated then in West and East.


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was the camera!

http://www.ritzcam.com/catalog/images/SuperIkontaBXFr.jpg

A jewel.


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I confused it with the Agfa Super Isolette that has the Solinar lens.

Yes, that cam is a beauty!


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might find this interesting Orio:

http://www.pentaconsix.com/LensTest.htm


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rule of 16:

Full sun gives F16 if the shutter is same/close to ISO. The rest is estimated from there;

example Iso 50 full sun is F16 at 1/50 sec or F8 at 1/100 etc.



Specially in large format this is not that critical.

Guido


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, medium format is fun, even with my old Adox Golf 63 (6x6) with an Adoxar 6.3/75 and my even older Dehel - Demaria Frres 1941 (4,5x6) with a Demaria 4.5/75 lens.

One day, I am sure, I will try to get a nice Pentacon 6 set.


PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LucisPictor wrote:
Yes, medium format is fun


A client showed me his photographic gear a few weeks ago and I was really taken with his Contax MF SLR camera. Not that I can afford one like that right now, but it got me thinking about MF.

I've seen single lens and double lens cameras worth buying, but I don't know which is best to go with to start with. Do they both give the same picture size? What are the pros and cons of each?