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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: Pancolar 1.8/80 first shots Reply with quote

two weeks ago, I followed an auction with a Praktica camera and a Pancolar 1.8/80 lens. Paypal was not supported so I decided to follow the auction knowing that many competitors from USA and Asia would have not taken part to the game.
In fact I was right and I won the auction for "only" 314 Euros. The lens has some brassing but optically and mechanically is perfect and it's worth double of what I paid for it!

Here's my first shots with it:




































PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've developed a new criteria for a good lens, (and a steady photographer): if stone and metal are alive in the photograph, it's an excellent lens and photographer. These photos are alive.


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonderful display of selective focus and DOF, Orio, and I like the frames,
too!


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you!

I made this tests for the Pancolar, but what is impressing me really are the colours of the 5DMark II. The colours in photo #03 are exactly as in the real life. These are very difficult delicate shades of wood and bronze that so far I was never able to create with photographs.

As for the lens, I want to test it with portraits. So far, I feel happy about it. It has the Planar basic qualities, with perhaps a bit less sharpness wide open, but in change, with a quieter bokeh.


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! So sharp and still so smooth! Great lens!
I could try the new version some time ago - fantastic!


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are over the top! I don't think I've ever seen more pleasing bokeh.

The subjects themselves have been presented with care and forethought. They are, frankly, all simply gorgeous. Any ONE of them would go on my wall if I had taken these.

Superb. A once-in-a-lifetime lens with a fantastic price, coupled with a photographer who extolls the artistry of photography, results in instant classics.


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked Shocked

What a lens !!

And a great photographer !!

Cheers
Tobias


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

congrats! great samples!
look like a lens who can give supra contrast with any light, but I suspect you helped a lot in this selection


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For sure my living room has lots of contrast between the daylight from the big glass, and the darkness inside.

Other shots (like the elderberry flowers) show that the lens has a good contrast, although not as good as the Contax lenses - but good enough, I would say.

I used a metal hood on all photos - a good habit!


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colors and bokeh are indeed awesome, that flower shot pops out of my
screen!


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few quick ones more:

Attila:


My neighbours' back garden:


Elderberry flowers almost wide open, to test bokeh of twigs:


My cypress' fruits wide open...


... and stopped down.


I have not seen the MTFs but I think this lens gives it's best at around f/4.


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio / Maestro

That lens has a dreamy quality to it that can make you think it is not sharp, but the detail is all there. And please do not keep tempting us with the MkII - I could dismiss the MkI fairly easily because I felt it offered little over the cameras I have - but that machine!


patrickh


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch these are so beautiful they hurt.


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Pancolar is the best 80mm lens. I prefer it to Biotars or Takumars.


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man what a combo you make with this lens and camera.
The shots form your living room are especially nice.

Please excuse me if this has come up already.
Do you have trouble with infinity with this lens?


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F16SUNSHINE wrote:

Do you have trouble with infinity with this lens?


No, no trouble thanksfully. I can reach infinity and perhaps a bit beyond with my adapter (AF chip beeps at infinity, but liveview shows that I need to step back a tiny little from infinity to have perfect focus on faraway objects).

If instead you mean if I have mirror clash, no, that also does not happen luckily. It's a perfectly compatible lens with 5DMkII.


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's great news Smile

Mine hits the mirror even on a shaded 5DI

I wonder if Zeiss changed the design of the Panny along the way Confused


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no-X wrote:
I think Pancolar is the best 80mm lens. I prefer it to Biotars or Takumars.


It has a very classy image look. Not aggressive. Not weak either. It does best, I think, in the close range (portrait range). It delivers beautiful colours there. I did not touch the colours in any way in my samples. Those with the frame, are AdobeRGB conversions to PhotoPro and from PhotoPro to sRGB for web output. These path has provided with very smooth gradation of tones, that you can see in the bronze and wood objects.
The following images are quick screen grabs from the Breezebrowser Pro preview. They are therefore direct sRGB captures from preview.
In any case this lens does great with the "half hues" of interiors, old objects, and evening daylight.
Next step will be to try it in full sunlight, when sun will come back Smile


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F16SUNSHINE wrote:
that's great news Smile
Mine hits the mirror even on a shaded 5DI
I wonder if Zeiss changed the design of the Panny along the way Confused


What is the mount of your copy, M42 or bayonet?


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

m42 MC Electric version with A/M switch

A beauty too that Attila chose for me Very Happy
Before I shaved the mirror I could only focus to about 4m.


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F16SUNSHINE wrote:
m42 MC Electric version with A/M switch


Same as mine.
VERY strange.
Confused


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it is strange I guess I should sand some more mirror soon.
It's the only Tele I have that has a problem (other than some Contax with big baffle fins).

Well, I'm becoming more convinced about the 5DII every time I see your posts.
Maybe Canon will put you on the Payroll Laughing


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The twigs' bokeh is the best I have ever seen. This is such a difficult sujet and this lens mastes it ever so well!


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F16SUNSHINE wrote:

It's the only Tele I have that has a problem


Andy post a photo of the rear of your copy, so I can compare with mine.


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One rear coming up. Wink