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Orio
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:03 am Post subject: Pancolar 1.8/50 |
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Orio wrote:
Who ever said that the Pancolar 1.8/50 is a mediocre lens?
It arrived this morning (zebra version) and I took some test shots - it is every bit as sharp as my 50mm Planars - but it costs 30 Euros!!! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
If you need a champion sharp 50mm lens, buy this one. Some of the best 30 Euros that I ever spent.
Want to talk about colour rendition?
Look at the Geranium behind the cat: I have not touched the Saturation slider. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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sqwall
Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 195 Location: Varna, Bulgaria
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:26 am Post subject: |
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sqwall wrote:
Looks pretty sharp _________________ Olympus E-500 | Pentax K100D | Fujifilm S9000
Mir-1B | SMC Takumar 50mm 1.4 | Industar 50-2 | Vega-12B | Jupiter-37A | Jupiter-21M | Tair-3A |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Look at the eyes ! Beautiful!
I know well from long time ago all version from this lens EXCELLENT! Sharp even at wide open with one of the best bokeh. Pancolar was premium lens in Carl Zeiss Jena product line. I compared Carl Zeiss Tessar 135mm f4 and Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135mm f3.5 I also didn't see any difference. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
100% crop of non sharpened, repeat NON sharpened image:
And I also badly missed the focus!
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iha
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 284
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: Re: Pancolar 1.8/50 |
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iha wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Who ever said that the Pancolar 1.8/50 is a mediocre lens?
It arrived this morning (zebra version) and I took some test shots - it is every bit as sharp as my 50mm Planars - but it costs 30 Euros!!! |
I bought it in 8 Euros in local shop. Everything (optical, building) is OK but my sample does not do sharpness like your one.
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Pancolar 1.8/50 |
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Orio wrote:
iha wrote: |
I bought it in 8 Euros in local shop. Everything (optical, building) is OK but my sample does not do sharpness like your one.
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maybe you have a bad copy and this is why they sold it for 8 Euros.
Unfortunately Zeiss Jena lenses are not famous for quality consistency in their DDR period. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Pancolar 1.8/50 |
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Attila wrote:
iha wrote: |
I bought it in 8 Euros in local shop. Everything (optical, building) is OK but my sample does not do sharpness like your one.
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Sharpness on DSLR highly depend from camera settings on NIKON D50 default settings was perfect to me. After I got my Olympus E-1, default sharpness was too soft I had to increase the sharpness in camera. I suppose difference between your lenses came from this fact you use different cameras or/and different settings. _________________ -------------------------------
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iha
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 284
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Pancolar 1.8/50 |
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iha wrote:
Orio wrote: |
iha wrote: |
I bought it in 8 Euros in local shop. Everything (optical, building) is OK but my sample does not do sharpness like your one.
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maybe you have a bad copy and this is why they sold it for 8 Euros.
Unfortunately Zeiss Jena lenses are not famous for quality consistency in their DDR period. |
It sounds sadly Can you do some shot with buildings or landscape?
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iha
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: Re: Pancolar 1.8/50 |
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iha wrote:
Attila wrote: |
iha wrote: |
I bought it in 8 Euros in local shop. Everything (optical, building) is OK but my sample does not do sharpness like your one.
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Sharpness on DSLR highly depend from camera settings on NIKON D50 default settings was perfect to me. After I got my Olympus E-1, default sharpness was too soft I had to increase the sharpness in camera. I suppose difference between your lenses came from this fact you use different cameras or/and different settings. |
The sharpness setup in camery do same impression as your modifying with Photoshop - UnSM?
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes, if I set to maximum I able to make sharp images virtually any kind of crappy lens , price is the noise. _________________ -------------------------------
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Anyway, "Pancolar" obviously is a name we should keep in mind... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Pancolar 1.8/50 |
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peterqd wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Who ever said that the Pancolar 1.8/50 is a mediocre lens? |
Not me - I'm pleased you've finally discovered it!
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Orio wrote: |
I'm very curious about a comparison of Pancolar 1.8 and Planar 1.7 |
Me too. I've never tried the Planar, but the Pancolar is my fave 50mm by far. In the 60s Praktica cameras came with a choice of 3 standard lenses, cheapest was the Meyer Domiplan, then the Tessar and most expensive was the Pancolar. I could never afford one then, so it was the first lens on my list when I got hooked on this crazy habit. I'm really pleased I bought it. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Today I found out that infinity focus with this lens on the 5D does not clear the mirror _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Today I found out that infinity focus with this lens on the 5D does not clear the mirror |
Ooops! I hope you find out without breaking anything! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Ooops! I hope you find out without breaking anything! |
No problem, it's never the back glass to get hurt, it is always a matter of some lever or some metal protection.
Well, another half year or so, and after the guarantee will expire, first thing I will do is to shave the mirror. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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