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Farside



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: P6: Never be rude on your camera... Reply with quote

...well, somebody has to.
http://poljot.myweb.hinet.net/CAMERA/SEAGULL/focus_scrn/install.htm

Anyway, I decided to get a brighter focusing screen and found that Rick Oleson does them ready cut, or one is available uncut from Taiwan Click here to see on Ebay
so I'm undecided now. Rick's screens have a useful grid scribed on them in a choice of spacings, so that might persuade me.
http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-175.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if this will help you decide or not, but I can tell you that it's the same exact screen in both cases. I charge more for it, obviously; what you get for the extra cost is:

1. I cut the screen to fit the camera; if I break or damage a screen in the process, I pay for that loss, not you

2. If you want a scribed grid on the screen, I do that.

3. I make and provide the little spacer that you need to put between the screen and the retaining clip in the front.

4. I provide installation instructions, in English.

5. I pay the postage to send it to you.

If you don't mind doing that stuff yourself, the screen on eBay will give you exactly the same results as mine and save you some money.

:)=
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I've decided to go for yours anyway - the extra cost is more than justified, in my opinion, for the reasons you state above. The purchase of a prism means that I'll definitely need a brighter screen and one with grid lines would be v. useful. Even without a prism, the brighter screen would be extremely handy, but in any case I find I just can't get along with the waist-level finder, being much more an eye-level user, so any viewing aid is a benefit.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

I've got a Pentacon six TL with two lenses, in order to use them, so I am wondering if we could use this thread to talk about everything related to Pentacon six cameras Smile


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds okay to me!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great Very Happy

Today I've bought a Keiv 60 TTL prism to mount on the P6, after having read some usefull review on Pentaconsix.com website saying it's much better than the original one.

It has to be adapted but not hacked as you just have to put a spacer between the P6 camera and it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted these some time ago in the 'Links' forum Florent so here you go.... Wink

Dismantling the Flektogon 4/50.
http://stephenrc.com/flektogon.htm

How to disassemble/destroy your Pentacon Six.
http://japantrip.tripod.com/6x6/pentacon_disasy01.html

Rolf Dieter Baier does the spacer (at a price...) for the Kiev prism and he also supplies a replacement Rollei screen too. The Kiev prism needs recalibrated if you use it in conjunction with the Rollei screen as the latter is meant to be substantially brighter than the original GG one.

http://www.baierfoto.de/index.html#english
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bob, that's a nice set of informations !
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flor27 wrote:
Great Very Happy

Today I've bought a Keiv 60 TTL prism to mount on the P6, after having read some usefull review on Pentaconsix.com website saying it's much better than the original one.

It has to be adapted but not hacked as you just have to put a spacer between the P6 camera and it.


The adapter isn't all that cheap, though...
http://www.baierfoto.de/new.html
Which is why I decided to just get a P6 metering prism and a brighter screen with grid lines (which I wanted anyway).
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farside wrote:
The adapter isn't all that cheap, though...
http://www.baierfoto.de/new.html
Which is why I decided to just get a P6 metering prism and a brighter screen with grid lines (which I wanted anyway).

As it is not in the light path and has no moving parts, it can be made DIY for cheap; it's just kind of frame spacer : http://www.baierfoto.de/exaktaprism.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flor27 wrote:
Farside wrote:
The adapter isn't all that cheap, though...
http://www.baierfoto.de/new.html
Which is why I decided to just get a P6 metering prism and a brighter screen with grid lines (which I wanted anyway).

As it is not in the light path and has no moving parts, it can be made DIY for cheap; it's just kind of frame spacer : http://www.baierfoto.de/exaktaprism.html


Right enough. Not hugely difficult to do from scratch. I have a spare waist-level finder if you want to use the base of that for a template or for the base of an adapter.
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