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my_photography
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 Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| Orio wrote: | | my_photography wrote: | | Any good copy of M42 Helios-44 58/2? Love the bokeh and result I saw in some of the photos. |
Yes, I have some Helioses and I can sell you one, which number would you prefer? |
To be honest with you, I have no idea what number are you referring to.
Instead of taking up more bandwidth here , let's communicate through PM. |
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mUg
Joined: 13 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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i might be interested in a 35 or 28 lens between the Revuenons, the Pentacon 29 or the Tamron 28 2.5 (with its adapt-all ring)
I'm from Italy too, so i guess we shouldn't have a bunch of problems about shipping 
P.S. i also have a Jupiter 21 and a Takumar 135 2.5 that i'm willing to sell (if you're interested). |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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Location: West Emilia
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| mUg wrote: | i might be interested in a 35 or 28 lens between the Revuenons, the Pentacon 29 or the Tamron 28 2.5 (with its adapt-all ring)
I'm from Italy too, so i guess we shouldn't have a bunch of problems about shipping
P.S. i also have a Jupiter 21 and a Takumar 135 2.5 that i'm willing to sell (if you're interested). |
Ciao, here's the prices.
To all prices, shipping and Paypal fee will have to be added (since you are from Italy you can also pay with Postepay or Bonifico and avoid Paypal fee)
Pentacon 2.8/29 = 25 Euros
Macro Revuenon 2.8/28 = 40 Euros
Macro Revuenon 2.8/35 = 40 Euros
Tamron 2.5/28, boxed (1 year old, was new old stock- I am first user) = 40 Euros
Tamron Adaptall Ring for M42 (1 year old, was new old stock- I am first user) = 40 Euros
The prices on the Tamron lens and ring are a bit higher than normal used price, but both the lens and ring are practically new and I am asking back only what I spent for them.
Orio
P.S. I have four Jupiter-21   
P.P.S: don't let the Revuenon "noname" brand put you off them, they are excellent lenses, great for macros and bokeh.
The real maker is Enna Muenchen and their images really have a German fingerprint to them (very different from Japanese macro lenses).
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Blunderstein
Joined: 12 Jul 2008
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Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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How close to those Revuenon macros go? 1:2? 1:1?
Couldn't find the answer with a quick net search.
/Erik |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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This is not real macro lens, not expect macro ratio Erik, it is a good wide angle lens with close-up capability.
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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no-X
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Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Wide "macro" lenses are mostly 1:4 or 1:5, so as Attila said, magnification is not stunning. But in some situations, wide lens with close-up capabilities can be very useful.
For ilustration, here are some close-up shots from my close-focus Vivitar (made by Komine) 28/2.8:
http://img1.abload.de/img/sdim2752h4ys.jpg
http://img1.abload.de/img/sdim2744h0ip.jpg
http://img1.abload.de/img/sdim2726fh477.jpg
http://img1.abload.de/img/sdim2725h5gj.jpg
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up-to 30mm: Vivitar (Tokina) Series 1 VMC 28/1.9, Vivitar (Komine) MC close-focus 28/2.8, Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8 ZS
35mm: Super Takumar 35/2 PRO, S-M-C Takumar 35/2, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, CZJ eMC Flektogon 35/2.4, SC Curtagon 35/2.8, SC Baby-C 35/2.8, Vivitar 35/1.9, CZJ Tessar T 40/4.5
50mm: S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4, Tomioka Cosinon MC 55/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, CZJ Biotar T 58/2 preset, CZJ Biotar T 58/2 17-blades, CZJ Tessar T 50/2.8, CZJ eMC Pancolar 50/1.8, aJ Pancolar 55/1.4, MMZ Helios MC 44-3 58/2, Helios 77M 50/1.8, KMZ Zenitar M2s MC 50/2, KMZ Industar 50/3.5, MC Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Volna-9 50/2.8, MG Orestor 50/1.8, Meostigmat 50/1.3, Polar 60/1.3
85mm: CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 EX, CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 M42, CZJ eMC Pancolar 80/1.8, aJ Biometar 80/2.8 P6 zebra, CZJ Biometar 80/2.8 M42, KMZ Helios 40-2 85/1.5 (custom hybrid of 40 and 40-2), S-M-C Takumar 80/1.8, MG Telefogar V 90/3.5
over 100mm: KOMZ MC Jupiter 37AM 135/3.5, KMZ Tair 11A 135/2.8, Pentacon preset 135/2.8 (bokehmonster) |
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Blunderstein
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Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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What a pity.
I was hoping for something that rivals the CZJ 35/2.4 (which does 1:2 unless I'm misinformed).
/Erik |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I think you need to take a look on Olympus OM Macro bellow lenses ,some of them will meet your expectation I guess. Take a look on them at www.mir.com.
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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no-X
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Blunderstein wrote: | What a pity.
I was hoping for something that rivals the CZJ 35/2.4 (which does 1:2 unless I'm misinformed).
/Erik |
for 35mm lens macro 1:2 requires ~ MFD 17.5 cm
for 28mm lens macro 1:2 requires ~ MFD 14 cm
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up-to 30mm: Vivitar (Tokina) Series 1 VMC 28/1.9, Vivitar (Komine) MC close-focus 28/2.8, Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8 ZS
35mm: Super Takumar 35/2 PRO, S-M-C Takumar 35/2, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, CZJ eMC Flektogon 35/2.4, SC Curtagon 35/2.8, SC Baby-C 35/2.8, Vivitar 35/1.9, CZJ Tessar T 40/4.5
50mm: S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4, Tomioka Cosinon MC 55/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, CZJ Biotar T 58/2 preset, CZJ Biotar T 58/2 17-blades, CZJ Tessar T 50/2.8, CZJ eMC Pancolar 50/1.8, aJ Pancolar 55/1.4, MMZ Helios MC 44-3 58/2, Helios 77M 50/1.8, KMZ Zenitar M2s MC 50/2, KMZ Industar 50/3.5, MC Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Volna-9 50/2.8, MG Orestor 50/1.8, Meostigmat 50/1.3, Polar 60/1.3
85mm: CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 EX, CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 M42, CZJ eMC Pancolar 80/1.8, aJ Biometar 80/2.8 P6 zebra, CZJ Biometar 80/2.8 M42, KMZ Helios 40-2 85/1.5 (custom hybrid of 40 and 40-2), S-M-C Takumar 80/1.8, MG Telefogar V 90/3.5
over 100mm: KOMZ MC Jupiter 37AM 135/3.5, KMZ Tair 11A 135/2.8, Pentacon preset 135/2.8 (bokehmonster) |
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Orio
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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1:1 or 1:2 Macro problem is a fake problem, extension tube exist for M42 that cost only a few euros (I got a set of three for 7 Euros), they fit in your pocket and they give you all the macro you need in a few seconds.
Since you don't take macro snapshots on the fly (macro shots need to be prepared) all this thing about how close a wideangle focuses is not useful. They focus close enough for the occasional closeup.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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Location: Budapest,Hungary
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Well spoken, indeed ! A cheap macro tube is more than enough!
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
Please visit my shop to support my reviews !
http://www.hqdesign.us/
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Blunderstein
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Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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It's more a question of usability: not having to fiddle with extension rings is definitely a plus at times.
I used to have Minolta 50/2.8 1:1 macro as my walkaround lens, and liked it a lot. My snapshots were not exactly masterpieces, but I had fun with that lens and hope to find something similar. |
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