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madamasu
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 Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:33 pm Post subject: One more from Yosemite with the Apo-Telyt |
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madamasu wrote:
I just converted another of the pictures I took with the Apo-Telyt 180mm with the D700 in Yosemite NP. This one was taken from Glacier Point and is by far the best I took.
@ f5.6 ISO 200
How about black and white? I'm not good at this, so any criticism is welcome.
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timo832000 wrote:
I prefer the colored version Its a very beautyful shot. I think there is to much black in the B/W version and the sky should have a bit more texture.
greetings Timo
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madamasu
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madamasu wrote:
Thanks Timo. You are definitely right about too much black, which is easy to change. I don't know, how to give more texture to the sky.
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patrickh wrote:
Stunning.
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timo832000
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timo832000 wrote:
very good!
maybe you can make the blue sky a bit darker so the white clouds would show a little bit more contrast to the rest of the sky. I think it's worth a try
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lahnet wrote:
I like the B/W version. I would try to make the blue sky almost black, and maybe add some contrast (a lot)
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tobbsman wrote:
I like both versions very much. At first sight I would have choosen the color version, but now I tend more towards the B&W version.
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Olivier wrote:
Beautiful, Thomas.
I prefer the color one because I find it more subtle in the tones changes.
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Orio wrote:
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I don't know, how to give more texture to the sky.
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Red filter 
Your conversion is nice but it shows why I prefer film for B&W. It is very difficult to obtain from a digital file the same type of contrast in the middle tones that graces the good B&W films and prints.
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lahnet wrote:
I love this picture, so I tried to work just a little bit on it. The file is to small to get a good result, but this is the way I would go.
Just let me know if you want me to remove it.
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madamasu wrote:
Hi Henrik,
thank you very much for your suggestion. Why should you remove it?
I also prefer the colour-version, because I'm a sucker for colours and that's how I see the world. I love B&W by people like Salgado, Cartier-Bresson, Ansel Adams and the other great B&W-photographers, but I am a colour-photographer. That's why I just got the second big volume by Steve McCurry from Phaidon. Wow!
Thomas
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Attila wrote:
one play from me.
I did make more dark sky and put more light and darkness on rocks. Acdsee 2.5.
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Orio wrote:
Attila's version works for me.
Good middle contrast brings the textures of the rock to live.
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madamasu wrote:
It certainly does.This version is really great. Thanks Attila.
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timo832000 wrote:
100 points for Attila, great work!
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