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Oldest Jupiter-9 85mm?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
RF of course.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is the RF one?


It's same optical?


PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
yes. slim tall is RF,.short fat is SLR , they are not identical. I like RF lenses much more


PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
My question: what is newst one?

Is it still in pproduction, I have a 1992 lens.

Is it the longest produced lens made ever?


PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kansalliskala wrote:
My question: what is newst one?

Is it still in pproduction, I have a 1992 lens.

Is it the longest produced lens made ever?

The lens is not in production. I talked with the factory representative in person 2 years ago at Photokina, and he said there is no demand for new Jupiter's, probably because of the second-hand market. He also said that if they receive an order (minimum quantities can be discussed), the factory can still produce them.

That said, I bought my MC Jupiter-9 brand new. It's made in year 2000. Probably production stopped around that time, maybe in 2000-2003. There are so many used copies floating around that I don't see the factory resuming production any time soon...


PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks like KMZ still produce it :

http://www.zenit-camera.com/jupiter_9_lens.htm


PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BurstMox wrote:
Looks like KMZ still produce it :

They don't. Jupiter-9 was (mostly) manufactured by LZOS.
http://lzos.ru/en/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2

It is no longer in production, although the technological line still exists, and (according to the factory representative I spoke with) production can be resumed if a big enough order is received.


PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
aoleg wrote:
BurstMox wrote:
Looks like KMZ still produce it :

They don't. Jupiter-9 was (mostly) manufactured by LZOS.
http://lzos.ru/en/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2

It is no longer in production, although the technological line still exists, and (according to the factory representative I spoke with) production can be resumed if a big enough order is received.


I was myself suprised to see it on KMZ site (lens even wear LZOS logo on the photo). But yes, I just noticed that when you click on "order now", it leads to nothing Confused


PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
aoleg wrote:
That said, I bought my MC Jupiter-9 brand new. It's made in year 2000. Probably production stopped around that time, maybe in 2000-2003.


so it has been produced about 50 years

any other lens lasted so long?
Hasselblad Planar / Sonnar maybe?


PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kansalliskala wrote:

so it has been produced about 50 years

any other lens lasted so long?
Hasselblad Planar / Sonnar maybe?

Oh, come on! In Russia, the 1966 Fiat 124 is produced as "LADA Classic" up to these days:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%96%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8_(%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C)

Does it make the Fiat an all-times classic car? Sure it'll become retro in another 50 years or so, but in today's Russia it's just a go-around car for the low-middle class... a sub-standard go-around car by today's standards if you ask me.


PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
aoleg wrote:
kansalliskala wrote:

so it has been produced about 50 years

any other lens lasted so long?
Hasselblad Planar / Sonnar maybe?

Oh, come on! In Russia, the 1966 Fiat 124 is produced as "LADA Classic" up to these days:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%96%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8_(%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C)

Does it make the Fiat an all-times classic car? Sure it'll become retro in another 50 years or so, but in today's Russia it's just a go-around car for the low-middle class... a sub-standard go-around car by today's standards if you ask me.


Smile


PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
lens finally on my desk , M42 ! and no sign of any modification looks a little fat jupiter-8 not tall like RF lens , no sign of cut from an RF lens, not even looks like SLR lens which is M39 anyway. Mistery lens really. serial start with 1951


PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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lens finally on my desk , M42 ! and no sign of any modification looks a little fat jupiter-8 not tall like RF lens , no sign of cut from an RF lens, not even looks like SLR lens which is M39 anyway. Mistery lens really. serial start with 1951


That makes very little sense. The Zenit prototype was introduced in 1951 and wasn't put into full scale production until '53. The m42 mount wasn't adopted into this SLR series until 1968. Must be custom work.


PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
yes I think same, sadly you can't see it in your hands , I will try to make large and quality shoots from lens to present to you, to see no sign any of custom work even if I saw hundreds in my life I can't recognize any non factory work.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Did you compare the design of rings, of letters and so on with your Kiev versions? I can't wait to see your photos Smile .

Maybe modification by KMZ worker in factory? that could explain that the modification is not visible...


PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
BurstMox wrote:
Did you compare the design of rings, of letters and so on with your Kiev versions? I can't wait to see your photos Smile .

Maybe modification by KMZ worker in factory? that could explain that the modification is not visible...


I guess same made in factory , I will show lens with others and we able to compare it , I have all types from J-9


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila. Here is my LTM copy with SN 510xxxx. It may be useful for your comparison.

Click to enlarge:


PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So, any news about this lens? Did you compared it with your other J-9's?


PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes , it has better coating than most others, and sharpest from all SLR lenses what I did try , I find some pics.
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