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Idyllion
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 Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:42 pm Post subject: Strange and characteristic lenses in M42 and M39 |
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Idyllion wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm a new member but have been an avid reader of this unique forum and i come with a lot of question.
I'm curious as to what sort of strange M42 and M39 lenses you've found.
Of course I'd love to buy only finest glass but I also love crappy lenses with major flaws. I like interesting lensflare and unusual bokeh.
All in all, even the flaws of some lenses can be a useful tool.
I really like the Zenitar ME-1 with it's square bokeh for example. Im currently trying to get one for around 50 Euros.
That said, what lens is your favorite oddball?
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mo wrote:
Hi Welcome to the forum,I moved your post here for better coverage.
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Lloydy wrote:
I think my most distinctive lens is a cheap Tamron zoom, 85-210 / 4.5. It's a sharp lens, lovely colours, and really great bokeh with circular highlights.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:31 am Post subject: M42 |
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newst wrote:
Three M42 lenses that I have really been impressed with are the Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f2.8, the Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58mm f1.2 and the Carl Zeiss Sonnar 85mm f2.8.
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Humulus
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Humulus wrote:
The strangest m42 lens?
-Cyclop 85mm f/1.5 |
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ZoneV
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ZoneV wrote:
Meyer Trioplan 100mm f/2.8!
| Humulus wrote: |
The strangest m42 lens?
-Cyclop 85mm f/1.5 |
Or the Helios 40 as its twin with iris.
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Tedat wrote:
Edixar 1.8/55 (M42)
it can be smooth and creamy:
or going crazy:
..it all depends on the light..
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Marek
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Marek wrote:
Wow, that Edixar is sick. Sick but great! Does anyone know where to buy one as bargain? 
Besides, I consider Trioplan 100 (alt. Primoplan 75) and Domiron 50 to have the wildest bokeh and Biotar 75/Helios 40 the most intriguing one for portraits.
And Pancolar 80 has the best "fire circle" under a certain counter-light cirumstances I have yet witnessed.
Also, Primotar 135 ("draws like Monet") or Telemegor 180 have some solid unique bokeh, kind of abstract like a painting.
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Tedat
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Tedat wrote:
| Marek wrote: |
| Does anyone know where to buy one as bargain? |
the price isn't the biggest problem, you have to find one.. 
You can try the old Auto Yashinon 1.8/55mm.. it's a lot easier to find and not that expensive. From my first (short) comparison with the Edixar, I think it could be the same lens.
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JJB wrote:
I like the Meyer Gorlitz Oreston 50/1.8, which can be had pretty cheaply.
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Aanything wrote:
Mir 10A and Industar 61 L/Z have peculiar star shaped aperture, and they happen to be pretty decent lenses, and not too expensive either.
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The Cheap as chips Pentacon Prakticar 50mm f/1.8 is really really glowy wide open. I consider it a plus, as it lets you take all kinds of dreamy photos. (It's sharp stopped down)
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visualopsins wrote:
Welcome Idyllion!
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TAo2
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TAo2 wrote:
A strange M42 lens - Fujita f3.5/135. A tiny wee lens, reputedly the smallest in its time, still very small today. Very sparse info on this company.
Even stranger - Nikon EL Nikkor f2.8 enlarging lens (m39) - with extension tubes.
Both lenses on Sony a700... 
PS photos of the Fujita...
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Lightshow
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:19 am Post subject: Re: M42 |
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Lightshow wrote:
| newst wrote: |
| Three M42 lenses that I have really been impressed with are the..... Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58mm f1.2 |
I assume that was a typo because this is the first I've heard of it....
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:24 am Post subject: Re: M42 |
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Oldhand wrote:
| Lightshow wrote: |
| newst wrote: |
| Three M42 lenses that I have really been impressed with are the..... Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58mm f1.2 |
I assume that was a typo because this is the first I've heard of it.... |
: not .
f1:2 most likely
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Nordentro wrote:
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| Mir 10A and Industar 61 L/Z have peculiar star shaped aperture, and they happen to be pretty decent lenses, and not too expensive either. |
Volna-9 too and it is a better lens than the similar 61 L/Z
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BurstMox wrote:
| Nordentro wrote: |
| Aanything wrote: |
| Mir 10A and Industar 61 L/Z have peculiar star shaped aperture, and they happen to be pretty decent lenses, and not too expensive either. |
Volna-9 too and it is a better lens than the similar 61 L/Z |
Strangely, my Volna-9 is not as good as my Industar-61 L/Z... maybe a bad copy.
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Nordentro wrote:
I tested the Super Takumar 50mm macro, the Volna-9 and Ind. 61 L/Z against each other a few years ago. Ind 61 can focus close, but not to 1:2 as the Takumar and the Volna. Sharpness is similar on all of them. Volna-9 has the best bokeh and is the better choice IMO
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Langstrum
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Strange and characteristic lenses in M42 and M39 |
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Langstrum wrote:
| Idyllion wrote: |
I really like the Zenitar ME-1 with it's square bokeh for example. Im currently trying to get one for around 50 Euros. |
That's an unrealistic price because no one is selling this lens under 300 Euro and there are only 4000 copies so I don't think the seller doesn't know the value of this lens. Be careful, don't be mistaken with the regular Zenitar 50/1.7 lens, it doesn't make square bokeh.
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newst
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:50 am Post subject: Re: M42 |
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newst wrote:
| Oldhand wrote: |
| Lightshow wrote: |
| newst wrote: |
| Three M42 lenses that I have really been impressed with are the..... Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58mm f1.2 |
I assume that was a typo because this is the first I've heard of it.... |
: not .
f1:2 most likely
OH |
Yes, my clumsy fingers. f2.0.
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