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Katastrofo



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:46 am    Post subject: Noise Ninja Pro Reply with quote

I finally broke down and bought Noise Ninja Pro. These were taken with
the Nikon F, Tammie SP 35-80 zoom, and using Kodak Gold 200. Scans
were from the Epson 4490 at 2400dpi:





and the cat using Noise Ninja Pro:



Here's the non-ninja'ed version:



These shots were after a rain storm.

Bill


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent decision, it is the best noise software and one of the most useful software I have ever owned.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Orio, I think it's pretty cool, too. This is my first attempt with it,
and now have included the version without noise reduction.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent demonstration, you should send it to Picturecode.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill,

Did you create and measure profiling charts for this camera/film/scanner combination, or did you use existing profiles?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris, this was "auto-profiled" so no, don't think so. I did this late, well
3am, so I'm not 100% sure. Laughing

I'm really happy how this software cleaned up this image, taken with the
Oly 35RC:




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
Chris, this was "auto-profiled" so no, don't think so. I did this late, well
3am, so I'm not 100% sure. Laughing


Ah okay, I forgot that option.

I do recommend displaying the test target on screen, photographing it, developing, scanning, and then using the software to construct a profile based on that. I also recommend marking out additional color areas, particularly for very dark colours at assorted levels of saturation. This seems to give a better profile,
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips, Chris!

Bill
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Noise Ninja is great! I only have got an older version, but still it is the best I denoiser I have. I started with Noiseware CE (which is not bad at all) but after Noise Ninja you are really spoiled. Wink
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Katastrofo



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Carsten, once I get all the custom profiles loaded, I'll like this
software even more!

Bill
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Bibble Pro 4.9 and it has that as a plug in. Great to use, love it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like the shots.

Do you know a site where are compared some Noise Reduction software ?
I use the free version of Noiseware Community (don't know what version) and I don't know if worth spending money on a such specialised software and with this one I use, for free. The think is that I don't need it too much because I didn't saw much noise/granulation on the film scanned pictures.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Klaus - NN is built in to Bibble and although it is a "lean" version it does a great job.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking about getting Bibble Lite, I got NN Pro for scanning film, primarily. I did the trial version of Bibble, and it is better than what is
bundled with CS3.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have the older version and agree it is great.
I do think there is a lot more to it than doing an auto profile or using a specific profile. I'm a big believer in every image is very different and needs individual adjustment.
This is easy after some practice and experiment with the program.
E.g Question? Do present users find it better to apply Noise reduction before any PS adjustments (Straight after RAW conversion) or at the end of PP to the finished resized image?
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