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maddog10



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Nikon Lens Infinity Focus Problem Reply with quote

What would cause a lens to not focus to infinity?

I have a Nikon2.8/35 AIS that does not reach infinity on my D3.
Can it be adjusted?
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Nikon Mount Lens: Nikkor - 2.8/20 2.8/24 2/28 2.8/28 3.5/28 2/35 2.8/35 1.4/50 1.8/50 2/50 1.8/85 2/85 2.5/105 2.8/135 3.5/135 2.8/180 4/200 4.5/300 Micro 2.8/55 Micro 4/200 Zoom 3.5/36-72 3.5/43-86 4/70-210 Sigma - Zoom 2.8-4/35-70 Soligor - 3.5-4.5/28-80 4.5/80-200 5.6/95-310 Tamron - SP 2.8-3.8/35-80 SP 3.5/70-210 3.8-4/80-210 Vivitar - 3.8/19 2.8/28 (Series 1) 3.5-4.5/19-35 (Kiron) 3.5/70-210 Zenitar - 2.8/16
Contax Mount Lens: Carl Zeiss - Biogon 2.8/21 Biogon 2.8/28 Planar 2/45 Sonnar 2.8/90 Yashica - 4.5/70-210
M42 Screw Mount Lens: CZJ - Flek 2.8/20 Flek 2.4/35 Tessar 2.8/50 3.5/135 Focal - 2.8/28 Helios - 44-2 2/58 44M 2/58 44M-4 2/58 40 1.5/85 Industar - 50-2 3.5/50 Jupiter - 37A 3.5/135 Meyer Optik Gorlitz - Domiplan 2.8/50 MIR - 24M 2/35 1B 2.8/37 Pentacon - 2.8/29 1.8/50 2.8/135 Pentax - SMC 3.5/135 SMC 4/200 SMC 5.6/400 Rexatar - 6.3/400 Rokinon - 3.5-4.5/35-135 Sears - 2.8/28 2.8/135 4.5/90-230 Soligor - 2.8/105 3.5-4.5/28-80
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I think so. How about your adapter, did you tried with other lenses ?
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Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Nikon mounted on Nikon, no adapter. This is the only lens I have had this problem with (not counting other manufactures mounted on the Nikon).
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Nikon Mount Lens: Nikkor - 2.8/20 2.8/24 2/28 2.8/28 3.5/28 2/35 2.8/35 1.4/50 1.8/50 2/50 1.8/85 2/85 2.5/105 2.8/135 3.5/135 2.8/180 4/200 4.5/300 Micro 2.8/55 Micro 4/200 Zoom 3.5/36-72 3.5/43-86 4/70-210 Sigma - Zoom 2.8-4/35-70 Soligor - 3.5-4.5/28-80 4.5/80-200 5.6/95-310 Tamron - SP 2.8-3.8/35-80 SP 3.5/70-210 3.8-4/80-210 Vivitar - 3.8/19 2.8/28 (Series 1) 3.5-4.5/19-35 (Kiron) 3.5/70-210 Zenitar - 2.8/16
Contax Mount Lens: Carl Zeiss - Biogon 2.8/21 Biogon 2.8/28 Planar 2/45 Sonnar 2.8/90 Yashica - 4.5/70-210
M42 Screw Mount Lens: CZJ - Flek 2.8/20 Flek 2.4/35 Tessar 2.8/50 3.5/135 Focal - 2.8/28 Helios - 44-2 2/58 44M 2/58 44M-4 2/58 40 1.5/85 Industar - 50-2 3.5/50 Jupiter - 37A 3.5/135 Meyer Optik Gorlitz - Domiplan 2.8/50 MIR - 24M 2/35 1B 2.8/37 Pentacon - 2.8/29 1.8/50 2.8/135 Pentax - SMC 3.5/135 SMC 4/200 SMC 5.6/400 Rexatar - 6.3/400 Rokinon - 3.5-4.5/35-135 Sears - 2.8/28 2.8/135 4.5/90-230 Soligor - 2.8/105 3.5-4.5/28-80
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have problem with a Flek 20 it has same problem, currently on repair in local shop.So I guess your Nikkor also fixable.
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
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Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't answer in relation to the Nikon lens, but I posted a message about correcting infinity focus on the Flek 20 a while ago. It's so tempting to grasp the big filter ring to screw the lens on and off the camera, and if the lens is screwed on tightly the filter ring will turn slightly when you twist it and this alters the position of the infinity stop. The ultra-wide angle makes it impossible to judge whether the lens is truly in focus or not at infinity distance. Fortunately there's a simple cure, but always remember to hold the lens by the thinner part next to the camera body.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike... Do you have another body that will confirm this problem? ...even a film bod?

And/or, do you know if anyone has ever been inside this lens?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know why I never even thought to check it on another body Shocked

It works fine on the D80.
I do not think anyone has cracked it open, but it was bought off eBay so you never know.

Ok, this is weird. I just remounted it back on the D3 and it works fine. Focus to infinity confirmed by the camera and by my eyes. Now I am really confused.

Any ideas what would cause this intermittent problem.

(BTW - Chris, I am building up the courage to open up the Nikkor 200mm, I have been inside and actually fixed the blades on a Pentacon 1.8/50)
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Nikon Mount Lens: Nikkor - 2.8/20 2.8/24 2/28 2.8/28 3.5/28 2/35 2.8/35 1.4/50 1.8/50 2/50 1.8/85 2/85 2.5/105 2.8/135 3.5/135 2.8/180 4/200 4.5/300 Micro 2.8/55 Micro 4/200 Zoom 3.5/36-72 3.5/43-86 4/70-210 Sigma - Zoom 2.8-4/35-70 Soligor - 3.5-4.5/28-80 4.5/80-200 5.6/95-310 Tamron - SP 2.8-3.8/35-80 SP 3.5/70-210 3.8-4/80-210 Vivitar - 3.8/19 2.8/28 (Series 1) 3.5-4.5/19-35 (Kiron) 3.5/70-210 Zenitar - 2.8/16
Contax Mount Lens: Carl Zeiss - Biogon 2.8/21 Biogon 2.8/28 Planar 2/45 Sonnar 2.8/90 Yashica - 4.5/70-210
M42 Screw Mount Lens: CZJ - Flek 2.8/20 Flek 2.4/35 Tessar 2.8/50 3.5/135 Focal - 2.8/28 Helios - 44-2 2/58 44M 2/58 44M-4 2/58 40 1.5/85 Industar - 50-2 3.5/50 Jupiter - 37A 3.5/135 Meyer Optik Gorlitz - Domiplan 2.8/50 MIR - 24M 2/35 1B 2.8/37 Pentacon - 2.8/29 1.8/50 2.8/135 Pentax - SMC 3.5/135 SMC 4/200 SMC 5.6/400 Rexatar - 6.3/400 Rokinon - 3.5-4.5/35-135 Sears - 2.8/28 2.8/135 4.5/90-230 Soligor - 2.8/105 3.5-4.5/28-80
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's your case (since now it works), but anyway if a lens is opened and the technician is an idiot (a circumstance that happens more than one would like to think), he might rebuild the focusing mechanism badly and make the lens not focus to infinity anymore (or past infinity if he makes the mistake in the other direction).
Of course serious technicians use instruments such as collimator to make perfectly tuned focus.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maddog10 wrote:
Ok, this is weird. I just remounted it back on the D3 and it works fine. Focus to infinity confirmed by the camera and by my eyes. Now I am really confused.

Any ideas what would cause this intermittent problem.

(BTW - Chris, I am building up the courage to open up the Nikkor 200mm, I have been inside and actually fixed the blades on a Pentacon 1.8/50)

I have no idea man... Just note this and see if you can dupe it in the future. You may also watch for this and re-seat (unlatch, twist, twist again to re-latch) the lens to see if it's something with how the lens is attaching.

But it's looks like it's not a lens issue now? Could be the 300? ...don't know. I've had similiar issues with my 200 and just reset the lens, and/or power cycle the cam. Ya know... ya gotta re-boot computers now and again...


So, what's up with the Nikkor 200 that you have to go into it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seymore wrote:
Could be the 300? ...don't know. I've had similiar issues with my 200 and just reset the lens, and/or power cycle the cam. Ya know... ya gotta re-boot computers now and again...


You don't switch off the cam anyway, to change lenses?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisLilley wrote:
Seymore wrote:
Could be the 300? ...don't know. I've had similiar issues with my 200 and just reset the lens, and/or power cycle the cam. Ya know... ya gotta re-boot computers now and again...


You don't switch off the cam anyway, to change lenses?

Oh yes! Almost always. But there have been times I forget to, although rare...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll see if it happens again.

Remember way back (couple of months), I have a Nikkor 200 that had non-functioning aperture blades. I was going to call you when I got my tools together. Never found them, so I bought new ones. I have 2 copies of this lens that do not work and 2 copies that do.
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Nikon Mount Lens: Nikkor - 2.8/20 2.8/24 2/28 2.8/28 3.5/28 2/35 2.8/35 1.4/50 1.8/50 2/50 1.8/85 2/85 2.5/105 2.8/135 3.5/135 2.8/180 4/200 4.5/300 Micro 2.8/55 Micro 4/200 Zoom 3.5/36-72 3.5/43-86 4/70-210 Sigma - Zoom 2.8-4/35-70 Soligor - 3.5-4.5/28-80 4.5/80-200 5.6/95-310 Tamron - SP 2.8-3.8/35-80 SP 3.5/70-210 3.8-4/80-210 Vivitar - 3.8/19 2.8/28 (Series 1) 3.5-4.5/19-35 (Kiron) 3.5/70-210 Zenitar - 2.8/16
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M42 Screw Mount Lens: CZJ - Flek 2.8/20 Flek 2.4/35 Tessar 2.8/50 3.5/135 Focal - 2.8/28 Helios - 44-2 2/58 44M 2/58 44M-4 2/58 40 1.5/85 Industar - 50-2 3.5/50 Jupiter - 37A 3.5/135 Meyer Optik Gorlitz - Domiplan 2.8/50 MIR - 24M 2/35 1B 2.8/37 Pentacon - 2.8/29 1.8/50 2.8/135 Pentax - SMC 3.5/135 SMC 4/200 SMC 5.6/400 Rexatar - 6.3/400 Rokinon - 3.5-4.5/35-135 Sears - 2.8/28 2.8/135 4.5/90-230 Soligor - 2.8/105 3.5-4.5/28-80
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, call if you need to. But I've never been into either of my copies. So don't know what I can help with on this lens. Myself... I've found that going in via the mount can get you really close to the aperture blades on some of Nikkor glass, but not all.

And if you can see them, without pulling the blades out/apart... a q-tip and isopropyl can usually get the blades cleaned to the point of working again. Well, this is if the blades are just gummed up.

But keep us posted... and call if you need to.
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