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ChrisLilley


Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 876 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: Nikon D700, official |
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click here for hi-res scan (in German)
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page two _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light (lenses in use)
Camera: Nikon D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 non-AI | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 non-AI | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai
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poilu


Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 2469 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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good news! I hope all manufacturer will push full frame and lower price _________________ Have a nice day
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Orio


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 10764 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I hope one day full frame cameras can go down to 1500 Euros level, but they currently seem stuck at 2000, which is too much for the average amateur. _________________ _
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LENSES: Russian, Zeiss, Leitz, old Nikkors.
DSLR: Canon 5D, 400D. SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM, Nikon FM2, Canon 50E, Contax 167MT.
RANGEFINDERS: Contax G2, Canonette QL17. MEDIUM FORMAT: Pentacon 6, Zeiss Super Ikonta.
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ChrisLilley


Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 876 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Orio wrote: | | I hope one day full frame cameras can go down to 1500 Euros level, but they currently seem stuck at 2000, which is too much for the average amateur. |
This one is 2,599. But then, the rumour mill said 2,999. And its a lot cheaper than the D3.
Not that it makes it affordable for an average amateur like myself. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light (lenses in use)
Camera: Nikon D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 non-AI | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 non-AI | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai |
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ChrisLilley


Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 876 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Non-CPU AI NIKKOR: Can be used in exposure modes A and M; electronic rangefinder can be used if maximum aperture is f/5.6 or faster; Color Matrix Metering and aperture value display supported if user provides lens data |
So, same as a D200/D300, but good to know that MF compatibility has not been crippled out. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light (lenses in use)
Camera: Nikon D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 non-AI | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 non-AI | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai |
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montecarlo


Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1303 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: |
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http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond700/ _________________ Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0
Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri GX-1 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , Varexon EEK 35mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , Chinon MC 200mm f:3.3
Pentax K100D , smc Pentax-DA 18-55 , smc Pentax-FA 80-320 |
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Seymore


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 903 Location: Olympia, WA...
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fotomachi

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montecarlo


Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1303 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: |
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The drawback of the Canon 5D and EF mount is that does not accept EF-S lenses, like Nikon does (Pentax could make the same, buy mounting APS-C lenses on their FF body, when they will release it). May be Canon will made some changings and the camera (5D II) will work with EF-S lenses. This would mean that it could accept lenses that could not be mounted on the present 5D because of the bigger mirror. Although this is not expected to happen. _________________ Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0
Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri GX-1 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , Varexon EEK 35mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , Chinon MC 200mm f:3.3
Pentax K100D , smc Pentax-DA 18-55 , smc Pentax-FA 80-320 |
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ChrisLilley


Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 876 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Nikon UK and Ireland page on D700 _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light (lenses in use)
Camera: Nikon D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 non-AI | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 non-AI | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai |
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Richard_D


Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2226 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: |
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It's almost texactly the same price as a new boiler and associated work. Somehow I don't think I could have persuaded my wife that a new camera would have a been a better investment though  _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2.8 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd, 300mm f4.5 AIS .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Jupiter 9 (85mm f2), Mir-24N (35mm f2),
Tair-11a (135mm f2.8 ) .
Other: Meyer-Gorlitz Trioplan 100mm f2.8 (M42), Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tokina 17mm f3.5 (AIS), Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP, Tamron 70-210 3.5(constant) .
DSLR: Nikon D200. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Nikon EL2, Pentax S1a.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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ChrisLilley


Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 876 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Richard_D wrote: | It's almost texactly the same price as a new boiler and associated work. Somehow I don't think I could have persuaded my wife that a new camera would have a been a better investment though  |
Richard, its the summer! Even in the UK summer is warmish, no? Leave the central heating until the start of winter in October or whatever it is there.
sweltering in 35degree heat here ... _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light (lenses in use)
Camera: Nikon D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 non-AI | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 non-AI | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai |
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peterqd

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 2101 Location: High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ChrisLilley wrote: | | Richard, its the summer! Even in the UK summer is warmish, no? Leave the central heating until the start of winter in October or whatever it is there. |
Ha! That's when everybody else is looking for a plumber and prices go through the roof.
About the Canon EF-S lenses, they could be used easily on a FF camera if there was an option in the software to only refer to a central area of the large sensor. _________________

Lenses: M42 - CZJ 20, 35, 50, 135 - Meyer/Pentacon 50, 135, 200
Russian - J9, J21, J37A, M1v, M24m, I50, H44m Vega12
Takumar 28, 35, 50, 55, 135 - Vivitar 28 - Rokkor 50
K-mount : Pentax-M 28, 50 - Tamron zooms :SP 35-80, 28-80, 60-300
DSLR:Canon 400D 35mm SLR: Pentax Spotmatic SP & SPII, ME Super, K2 - Chinon CE-3 - Minolta XG-M - Praktica Nova 1B & PLC2,
Rangefinder: Zorki-4, Beauty Light-o-matic II Medium Format: Yashica-Mat 124G |
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montecarlo


Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1303 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| peterqd wrote: | ...
About the Canon EF-S lenses, they could be used easily on a FF camera if there was an option in the software to only refer to a central area of the large sensor. |
Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF-S_lens_mount is written that "...Canon designers have taken steps to ensure it is physically impossible to mount EF-S lenses on EF-only cameras. This is because the increased proximity of the lens to the sensor means that on full-frame sensor or 35mm film EF cameras the lens itself would obstruct the mirror's movement and cause damage to the lens and/or camera." _________________ Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0
Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri GX-1 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , Varexon EEK 35mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , Chinon MC 200mm f:3.3
Pentax K100D , smc Pentax-DA 18-55 , smc Pentax-FA 80-320 |
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peterqd

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 2101 Location: High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| montecarlo wrote: | | peterqd wrote: | ...
About the Canon EF-S lenses, they could be used easily on a FF camera if there was an option in the software to only refer to a central area of the large sensor. |
Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF-S_lens_mount is written that "...Canon designers have taken steps to ensure it is physically impossible to mount EF-S lenses on EF-only cameras. This is because the increased proximity of the lens to the sensor means that on full-frame sensor or 35mm film EF cameras the lens itself would obstruct the mirror's movement and cause damage to the lens and/or camera." |
Ah, I didn't know that, thanks. The instructions for my camera say only that the EF-S lenses are not compatible with FF cameras (film or digital), which I took to mean that the image circle is too small. The projecting part of the 18-55 kit lens is surrounded with soft rubber, maybe that's why!
Are there any decent EF-S lenses to worry about? I thought they are only the kit lenses. _________________

Lenses: M42 - CZJ 20, 35, 50, 135 - Meyer/Pentacon 50, 135, 200
Russian - J9, J21, J37A, M1v, M24m, I50, H44m Vega12
Takumar 28, 35, 50, 55, 135 - Vivitar 28 - Rokkor 50
K-mount : Pentax-M 28, 50 - Tamron zooms :SP 35-80, 28-80, 60-300
DSLR:Canon 400D 35mm SLR: Pentax Spotmatic SP & SPII, ME Super, K2 - Chinon CE-3 - Minolta XG-M - Praktica Nova 1B & PLC2,
Rangefinder: Zorki-4, Beauty Light-o-matic II Medium Format: Yashica-Mat 124G |
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