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patrickh
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The D3 is designed for sports and photojournalists - the market that Nikon has lost over the past decade. They are keeping the D2x at this point for studio work. Same with D200, they are keeping it in parallel with the D300. Not sure I completely understand the marketing logic. And the marketing will not work without some serious upgrading of their modern AF lenses to incorporate anti-shake at least.
I am very much in two minds over the upgrade at this point - I will look very closely at the Canon 40D in comparison with the D300. In the States there is a $300 price differential in favour of Canon. My D200 provides me with as much quality as I can use at my skill level and many of my lenses are way beyond that. At this point there is simply not enough information available to make an informed decision and the early buyers are taking something of a gamble IMHO - although Nikon usually delivers on the upgrades (unlike Canon's D20 to D30 move).
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007
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Location: Faversham Kent UK
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| patrickh wrote: | The D3 is designed for sports and photojournalists - the market that Nikon has lost over the past decade. They are keeping the D2x at this point for studio work. Same with D200, they are keeping it in parallel with the D300. Not sure I completely understand the marketing logic. And the marketing will not work without some serious upgrading of their modern AF lenses to incorporate anti-shake at least.
I am very much in two minds over the upgrade at this point - I will look very closely at the Canon 40D in comparison with the D300. In the States there is a $300 price differential in favour of Canon. My D200 provides me with as much quality as I can use at my skill level and many of my lenses are way beyond that. At this point there is simply not enough information available to make an informed decision and the early buyers are taking something of a gamble IMHO - although Nikon usually delivers on the upgrades (unlike Canon's D20 to D30 move).
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Patrick I suspect the price difference will soon narrow - it seems standard Nikon policy to release a little high then reduce. From what I've seen of the Canon 40D it seems to sit pretty much in the middle of the D200 and D300 in spec. If Nikon are keeping the D200 (and that seems unclear) they need to drop it's price a little. I've not really looked at Canon since the AE-1 - I don't like the handling of the EOS's, but they generally seem to deliver the goods.
I think pretty much all the tele's over 135mm are now VR (the 180mm is the one exception I can think of).
I wish them luck with the D3, I know they've got some pro's switching back on the basis of the pre-release models but they've got a hard battle ahead to regain the market they've lost.
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55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
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montecarlo
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Article: http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Nikon-D3
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