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Attila



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: Nikon D1X ? Reply with quote

Any thought? How about to take a used one from this cam ?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was one of Nikons early PRO bodies. You can more (sorry, English only) here: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Nikon/nikon_d1x.asp
And there are 87 reviews on this body: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/read_opinions.asp?prodkey=nikon_d1x

Atilla, but I don't understand the 2nd part of your question. Can you please rephrase?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it good idea to buy a second hand D1x camera body?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure. As long as you can handle it first. (my personal preference) Also check for dead pixels, outside body condition, good battery (can get replacement on ebay) and overall condition. Make sure everything works.

Another judgement I make... does the seller have the box? Can tell you something about how the seller takes care of his equipment. I will put some judgement on this and change pay the price accordingly. I would also check eBay, KEH for current sales prices of anything I'm considering buying.

Please remember that I'm from the US and do most everything here. So I have all my resources based here. You need to check the resources in your area for current pricing.

You have this opportunity? Local to you? Do you know the seller?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will look around locally, I just saw yesterday on Ebay. Nothing serious just started to thinking I really want a Nikon DSLR again,but this time I have not much money than before so I thinking on a used camera.
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Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila, never mind about the D1x, find a store that has a used D2x and
LMK. I'll take a military hop over and help you get it. This will be a
nighttime operation... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile Thanks Bill! I am afraid this time both are expensive to me I just dreaming about a good Nikon camera.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Smile Thanks Bill! I am afraid this time both are expensive to me I just dreaming about a good Nikon camera.


Yeah, I miss my D50 and D70, too. I just loved the ergonomics, the
feel of those cameras! And very reponsive with fast fast startup! And
that electronic rangefinder for focus confirm! Rethinking things, now,
dunno, with Tamron native Nikon mounts, and just using old Nikkors,
and Vivs with Nikon mounts, might have been a nice road to travel.

Another problem that they allegedly have dealt with in their most recent
models, is noise going up in the ISOs. Another thing, and Orio and a few
others have shown this, is how Canon does color. I place even my Oly
above Nikon when it comes to color. Of course this could be worked with
in Photoshop.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I agree with you except colors I like more Nikon colors than Canon.
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Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
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Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
I place even my Oly
above Nikon when it comes to color. Of course this could be worked with
in Photoshop.

To a certain extent this is correct... I've also found Nikons color rendering is a bit muted when compared to some other manuf. But PP can fix almost any problem, if you know what you're doing and what you're looking to accomplish. (o:



gotta luv this digital age we're in...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Yes, I agree with you except colors I like more Nikon colors than Canon.


Hummm, I see, when was the last time you took a Colour FALANT
test, or equivalent? Just kidding... Wink

A matter of preference, of course.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect many of us are dealing with two separate issues when it comes to colour:

1) Properly calibrated monitors
2) Saturation, as opposed to colour.

My experience suggests that the Canon algorithm goes for more saturation than Nikon and is related to the philosophy of sharpness, where Canon looks for more sharpness from the box (partly due to anti-aliasing of the chip). Frankly, although a committed nikon user, I think most people cannot tell the difference between the two after suitable post-processing - it becomes much more the photographer's "eye".

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More than Canon vs. Nikon I would put it as CMOS vs. CCD, which I think is more correct.

I always found the CMOS colours more natural and "soothing" in the situations where you have many intermediate shades (such as sunsets, twilight, and the like), while I find the CCD interpretation of colours more "aggressive" and bold.
Of course this is my personal sensation. I have used both CCD and CMOS (I used to have an Olympus digital camera, a compact, but good quality)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio, you beat me to it about the CMOS sensor. Sony makes CMOS
sensors, but they don't seem to be the equal of Canon's. The D2x uses
a Sony-made CMOS sensor, and has colors that are almost as pleasing
as Canon's. Unfortunately and genetically speaking, since they use the
Sony CMOS, it has the noise in higher ISO, too, which the Canon does
not. The new Nikons are supposed to deal with this noise problem, will
be interesting to see if this is true.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I saw this one on a romanian auction site http://www.okazii.ro/catalog/3762002/echipament-fotografic/aparate-foto-digitale/peste-megapixeli/Nikon-D1X-Body.html
It says it has only ~8000 shutter releases (this means is almost new, for a pro camera, I suppose) is in good shape and costs 800 EUROS, without shipping.
I didn't look on ebay to make a price comparison. Is says also that it can be checked if one can go to the seller. He is selling it because needs the money very urgently. The city is Craiova ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craiova )
But , still, I don't know how trusty can be the seller. Sorry.

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