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Orio




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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Nikkor 50mm 1.8 "Pancake" manual Reply with quote

This is one of my best bokeh lens.
You can see it mounted on the 5D:



It is really a flat lens, flatter than it looks here because of perspective.
Pleasantly dreamy and with killer bokeh wide open, it becomes "tack" sharp once stopped down.
(I don't know, but I bet this lens is a Tessar design).
The size and features make it the ideal walkaround lens. I have decided that I will take this one to Budapest as 50mm lens.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put on an Industar pancake just for fun Smile it has no bokeh but killer sharp Smile This pancake lenses looks like a toy Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sample bokeh from this lens:



Not bad eh?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, right.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sharp stopped down:



but still pleasant in the blur (not a so common thing to happen)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Yes, right.


It has no annoying diverging lines and the highlights are smoothed.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also I have to add as a side note, not too bad in the "3D-effect" department either.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those interested, the picture of the camera and lens is taken with the Industar-61 macro lens and with the help of a golden reflector to fill up the shadows. The white balance was taken on the white wall before the use of the reflector, in order to have it's reflection cast as warmer tone. I think it adds to the atmosphere.

Both the Industar-61 and the Volna-9 are fantastic lenses, amongst the absolute best in the Russian lenses panorama in my opinion. I will never sell them.
Here the Industar shows how well it can render the texture of the objects i.e. good microcontrast (a very important quality for a macro lens).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used only once my Industar-61 , but I was so satisfied from every aspect. Focusing , picture quality etc one of the best.I sold my copy in the last fw days, because need to sell something to get income for newest lenses. Perhaps I will buy again soon.
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio,
Is this Nikkor a series E? AI or AIS? I do not see the coupler for the older Nikon camera meters. That lens has fantastic bokeh.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure does look like the Series E, which has the same performance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob wrote:
Orio,
Is this Nikkor a series E? AI or AIS? I do not see the coupler for the older Nikon camera meters. That lens has fantastic bokeh.


No Bob. This is the top-of-the-line version. I used to have the Series E before this one. It was stolen with my photo bag in London Crying or Very sad
The Series E was MUCH flatter (is flatter a correct word? Does sound strange to me).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
Sure does look like the Series E, which has the same performance.


The Series E is flatter (more flat? more flattened? what is the correct expression?). Also Series E is single coated, but apart from this, I suspect it could be a different lens scheme, because it has much less depth.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
Sample bokeh from this lens:



Not bad eh?


Not bad? I would say this is pretty amazing (and amazingly pretty)!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LucisPictor wrote:

Not bad? I would say this is pretty amazing (and amazingly pretty)!


Yep.
This is proof that sometimes you don't need big money to get big performance. This lens is in the affordable range (I paid for mine about 70 Euros, but it's a "like new" copy - more used copies should be found for even less).
And for sure the Series E version should be even more affordable (althouhg a lot of time has passed since I used it and I don't remember about its performance specifically).
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