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mzzyhmd
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 99 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:12 am Post subject: NEX 6 MF Lense & Adapter Suggestions |
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mzzyhmd wrote:
I am relatively NEW to this MF thing. I am just trying the Minolta Rokkor PF MC Lens after reading numerous good reviews about it.
Now I am pleased with the result and want to go step ahead.
I want one 24/28, one 85MM, one 135MM lens.
I am particularly looking for German/Russian glasses. And I am not willing to spend more than 1K for all three.
Please give me your suggestions. I am concerned about the lens adapter as well. Which adapter should I buy? I don't want to buy a lot of different adapters. I want to get one Sony A-E mount and one M42 > E-mount. What you say?
Look forward to your responses. I will follow your lead.
On another note, I don't care about sharpness. I need awesome color and BOKEH effect
Thanks! _________________ Nex 6: Sony 16/2.8|| Vivitar Komine 24/2|| Sigma 30/2.8|| Rokinon 35/1.4|| Jupiter 8||Helios 53/1.8|| Minolta Rokkor PF 55/1.7|| CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8||Steinheil 85/2.8||Leica Elmar 90/4||Meyer Orestor 135/2.8||Tair 133/2.8 |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
85mm: helios 40, Jupiter 9 or (personal suggestion) Leica R Elmarit 90mm
28: Zeiss Distagon 28/2.8 or CZJ 28mm
135: I'd say CZJ sonnar 135/3.5 or TAIR 11A or Jupiter 11
Playing with different models you should stay in your budget |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4572 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:21 am Post subject: Re: NEX 6 MF Lense & Adapter Suggestions |
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kuuan wrote:
mzzyhmd wrote: |
I am relatively NEW to this MF thing. I am just trying the Minolta Rokkor PF MC Lens after reading numerous good reviews about it.
Now I am pleased with the result and want to go step ahead.
I want one 24/28, one 85MM, one 135MM lens.
I am particularly looking for German/Russian glasses. And I am not willing to spend more than 1K for all three.
Please give me your suggestions. I am concerned about the lens adapter as well. Which adapter should I buy? I don't want to buy a lot of different adapters. I want to get one Sony A-E mount and one M42 > E-mount. What you say?
Look forward to your responses. I will follow your lead.
On another note, I don't care about sharpness. I need awesome color and BOKEH effect
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for awesome color and BOKEH effect and 85mm Super Takumar f1.9/85 jumps to my mind! This is a M42 lens, you seem to already have the Minolta adapter, Minolta MD f1.7/85 ( or f2/85 ) should be good to.
for 24mm Minolta MD 2.8/24, possibly a bit better and obviously a bit faster than S-M-C Takumar 3.5/24 which is good too
there are so many good 135mm, if staying either Minolta or M42 adapter MC/MC Rokkor f2.8/135 or Takumar f3.5/135, there are many versions, the earliest preset is the smallest and lightest, nice for a NEX, the 2.5/135 is great but of course bigger and heavier, or CZJ sonnar 135/3.5 or TAIR 11A or Jupiter 11 as suggested by Rick.
total cost estimated at abt. 600 usd _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
With your budget, having to put bokeh on top of priorities, I'd chose:
Canon FD 24/2 (around €250)
Helios 40 85/1.5(around €350)
tair 11 (around €80)
Prices are indicative and a bit on the high side, you can find them for less with some luck and patience, and vary upon condition.
This will require an fd adapter, but the lens is really excellent, and I think it's worth it.
I usually buy cheap china made ones, no problems so far, but I'm not too picky. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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DahakaNishoba
Joined: 07 May 2013 Posts: 27 Location: Rome ITALY
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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DahakaNishoba wrote:
In the 135mm range consider the Jupiter 37A 3.5
slower than some 2.8 lenses but is REALLY nice and cheap (I got a perfect olympic limited one for less than 60€, but can be obtained for even less)
or the Zeiss Sonnar 135 (never tried one as I were limited to nikon mount, now I have a nex and i'll try one 4 sure....) |
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mzzyhmd
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 99 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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mzzyhmd wrote:
what about vivitar-komine 24/2? _________________ Nex 6: Sony 16/2.8|| Vivitar Komine 24/2|| Sigma 30/2.8|| Rokinon 35/1.4|| Jupiter 8||Helios 53/1.8|| Minolta Rokkor PF 55/1.7|| CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8||Steinheil 85/2.8||Leica Elmar 90/4||Meyer Orestor 135/2.8||Tair 133/2.8 |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4572 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
mzzyhmd wrote: |
what about vivitar-komine 24/2? |
Since you don't care about sharpness I'd say it's ok
Mine is the Kiron version. Wide open it shows 'some' sharpness in a rather small center area only and degradation from there onwards is substantial. F2 still can be fun though, @f5.6 sharpness is ok and oof rendering I find good. It must be the cheapest f2 24mm lens out there and that obviously is it's biggest virtue.
the set of photos taken with my Vivitar 2/24: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/sets/72157612125157920/ _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Also make sure you get decent adapters.
It's annoying when you use a great lens on a wobbly adapter. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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mzzyhmd
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 99 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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mzzyhmd wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Also make sure you get decent adapters.
It's annoying when you use a great lens on a wobbly adapter. |
I got the Rainbowimaging one off Amazon. Is it mediocre? :/ _________________ Nex 6: Sony 16/2.8|| Vivitar Komine 24/2|| Sigma 30/2.8|| Rokinon 35/1.4|| Jupiter 8||Helios 53/1.8|| Minolta Rokkor PF 55/1.7|| CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8||Steinheil 85/2.8||Leica Elmar 90/4||Meyer Orestor 135/2.8||Tair 133/2.8 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Basically all lenses are good in this focal lengths.
My recommendation is next:
Konica 24mm or 28mm , 85mm and 135mm
One of the lowest cost option , but 85mm is rare and 24mm not common either.
All three max 500 USD budget, with luck even less 300 USD.
Probably all simple cheap adapter is fine, like fotga etc
Nikon 24 or 28mm , 85mm , 135mm not too bad either also pretty low cost option.
Olympus OM 24 or 28mm , 85mm , 135mm price depend how fast lens you wish from wides and 135mm
Carl Zeiss 25mm Distagon, Sonnar 85mm f2.8, 135mm f2.8 Sonnar fit into 1K
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 80mm f1.8 Praktica PB or M42 , 28mm , 135mm PB also fit into 1K
Takumar 28mm, 85mm, 135mm fit into 600-700 USD as well
Jupiter-9 85mm f2.0 , Orion-15mm 28mm f5.6 , Jupiter-11 135mm f4 Leica screw 400 USD
... etc etc _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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mzzyhmd
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 99 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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mzzyhmd wrote:
any idea about Rokinon 85/1.4 this one is surprisingly cheap?!?? _________________ Nex 6: Sony 16/2.8|| Vivitar Komine 24/2|| Sigma 30/2.8|| Rokinon 35/1.4|| Jupiter 8||Helios 53/1.8|| Minolta Rokkor PF 55/1.7|| CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8||Steinheil 85/2.8||Leica Elmar 90/4||Meyer Orestor 135/2.8||Tair 133/2.8 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
excellent lens made by Samyang and marketed on many different names. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:04 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
mzzyhmd wrote: |
LucisPictor wrote: |
Also make sure you get decent adapters.
It's annoying when you use a great lens on a wobbly adapter. |
I got the Rainbowimaging one off Amazon. Is it mediocre? :/ |
Only you can tell. With the rather cheapish ones (I also have many of those) it's a hit and miss.
Some of them are really good, others are not - even from the same brand, the same model.
It's easy to judge on them, though:
1. Does the mount ssmoothly click in? On both sides, to the lens AND to the camera?
2. If mounted, does it feel wobbly in any kind?
3. Do you get infinity when you should?
4. Is it easy to de-mount again?
5. Is it blackened properly inside? Shiny parts may cause reflections.
I own several types. The best one I have is without doubt the Novoflex M-NEX-adapter but that's a very expensive one.
From the cheap ones I bought, I don't really use some, because they don't seem to work properly.
But even if you buy 6 cheaper ones and get 3 good ones and 1 very good one out of it (accepting that the other 2 are lemons), it's still cheaper than buying one Novoflex. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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