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montecarlo
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 Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:14 am Post subject: News from Nikon |
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New Nikon:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012911nikond601st.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012910nikond60.asp
Not big changes.
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Seymore
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Hmmmmmm... Looks like it's an EU (Germany only?) release for now.
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Richard_D
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Looks like it's a rival to the new Canon 450D - It'll be interesting to see further details and sample shots.
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The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| Richard_D wrote: | | Looks like it's a rival to the new Canon 450D - It'll be interesting to see further details and sample shots. |
I think thats will be a hard job. No support again for Nikon primes (AF) - not important for us but for competing with 450D, yes, no functional exposure meter with older Nikon lenses (like D200...), no vertical grip, no bigger viewfinder. Its like the upgrade from K100D to K100D Super made by Pentax.
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Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0
Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri GX-1 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , Varexon EEK 35mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , Chinon MC 200mm f:3.3
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| montecarlo wrote: | | Richard_D wrote: | | Looks like it's a rival to the new Canon 450D - It'll be interesting to see further details and sample shots. |
I think thats will be a hard job. No support again for Nikon primes (AF) - not important for us but for competing with 450D, yes, no functional exposure meter with older Nikon lenses (like D200...), no vertical grip, no bigger viewfinder. Its like the upgrade from K100D to K100D Super made by Pentax. |
I would guess 95% of prospective buyers won't look at lens compatability, and 99% won't care about manual Nikkors. Grip and viewfinder might make or break a few decisions, but at this level it will be number of pixels and image quality that are going to be the key - oh and probably most importantly price 
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The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Yes, but regarding this, it will have a 10Mpx CCD sensor (the same I think in the K200D, K10D, D80, D200) vs. Canon's 12Mpx CMOS sensor.
We'll see D90 (?) what will bring with it.
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Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0
Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri GX-1 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , Varexon EEK 35mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , Chinon MC 200mm f:3.3
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007
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Location: Faversham Kent UK
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Yes I suspect the strategy is price D60 and D90 either side of 450D. It will be interesting to see what the D90 brings.
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The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| Richard_D wrote: | | Looks like it's a rival to the new Canon 450D - It'll be interesting to see further details and sample shots. |
The Canon 450D looks like a rival to the D300, with many of the features at a lot lower price. The D60 is careful to not rival the D300, and is a lightly warmed over D40X with a VR kit lens. It does add a digital rangefinder for manual lenses, though.
Seems the D60 is mainly aimed at reducing customer confusion between the D40 and D40X, by giving the D40X a new number and a small number of differentiating features 
Overall disappointing, and makes the new Canon look pretty attractive.
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Camera: Nikon D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 non-AI | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 non-AI | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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patrickh
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Neither Nikon nor Canon is particularly smart about how they position each of the cameras in their ranges in terms of capabilities. The problem they have is that under the digital regime they actually downgrade features with no cost benefits in the manufacturing/production side in order to differentiate. Then they hope buyers will pay extra for such mechanical things as body build. Thus when the D200 first came out it was a "dumbed down" version of the D2x, quite capable of most of the things the "pro" version could do, but deliberately stripped. I dont know if any of them is going to rationalize their line ups in a way that makes marketing sense.
patrickh
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: D3x |
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New flagship from Nikon ???
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/15/24-4-megapixel-nikon-d3x-dslr-in-the-works/
http://zebase.com/zubek2005/d3bin/
( http://forum.mflenses.com/new-sony-dslr-t4547.html#50351 )
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Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri GX-1 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , Varexon EEK 35mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , Chinon MC 200mm f:3.3
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Richard_D
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:08 am Post subject: |
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A pro cam with a higher mpixel count is to be expected (although Nikon were saying they're dropping the x extensions) it will be interesting to see if they can keep noise levels down with a larger sensor. The IQ of the D3 has already lured the odd pro from Canon and they'd be fools to release a camera that couldn't beat Canon's high mpixel offerings in IQ.
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The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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ChrisLilley
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| Richard_D wrote: | | A pro cam with a higher mpixel count is to be expected (although Nikon were saying they're dropping the x extensions) it will be interesting to see if they can keep noise levels down with a larger sensor. The IQ of the D3 has already lured the odd pro from Canon and they'd be fools to release a camera that couldn't beat Canon's high mpixel offerings in IQ. |
Clearly they will try to keep noise down; but equally clearly, the 12MP full frame sensor in the D3 will have much lower noise than the 24 mp sensor in the D3X.
If you are shooting fashion models or products under studio lights, or well lit landscapes, then reach for the D3x. if you are shooting rock concerts under low light, reach for the D3. In other words these are complementary cameras; one does not replace the other.
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ais, Ai'ed, pre-Ai
Camera: Nikon D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 non-AI | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 non-AI | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Nikon is preparing a surprise ?
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/05/19/july-1st.aspx
We shall see if it is true on july the first 
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Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri GX-1 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , Varexon EEK 35mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , Chinon MC 200mm f:3.3
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Orio
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| montecarlo wrote: | | Nikon is preparing a surprise ? |
A new boring autofocus lens. 
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ChrisLilley
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Orio wrote: | | montecarlo wrote: | | Nikon is preparing a surprise ? |
A new boring autofocus lens. |
AF-S ED-IF VR N 800mm f/4
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ais, Ai'ed, pre-Ai
Camera: Nikon D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 non-AI | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 non-AI | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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