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New Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 50mm f/2
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:39 am    Post subject: New Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 50mm f/2 Reply with quote
Have you heard the news? This lens is on the way, hopefully before the end of the year.

So far it seems like it's E-mount only like the 2/65 and 2.5/110.

Rumored price: 128,000 YEN

An interesting detail is that the 12 aperture blades forms a perfect circle at f/2.8.

Optical diagram linked from Cosina.

http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/e-mount/e-50mmF2/index.html





Discussion on fredmiranda: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1616181/0


What do you think? I think it has a lot of potential. I've been following a Leica user on Flickr that has an APO Summicron 50mm f/2. His photos looks amazing, not to take away from his skill the photos has a high dose of 3d pop/ micro contrast. If the Voigtländer can come close to that I think we have a winner.

Last edited by blotafton on Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:14 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice. Will be interesting to see what the actual price is (especially here in the UK).


PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I will sell one of my Kern 50/1.8 to buy this lens when the price comes down. Wink


PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
JMC wrote:
Very nice. Will be interesting to see what the actual price is (especially here in the UK).


According Cosina Japan it will be the same recommended selling price like the 65mm/F2 macro APO-Lanthar. Within EU this lens is available for EUR 999.-.


PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here is an interview with the designer translated in google.

Mr. Shimada has also designed f/0.95 m43 lenses, 21mm f/1.8, 35mm f/1.7, Nokton 40mm f/1.2 and APO Lanthar 65mm f/2.


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cosina.co.jp%2Fseihin%2Fvoigtlander%2Fe-mount%2Fe-50mmF2%2Fk-001.html


PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ordered Smile
Lens is listed now here in Germany @ all Ringfoto dealers
Shippment date : Dec
Limited quantities
Price tag Germany : 1099 €

Best

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
sch8mid wrote:
Ordered Smile
Lens is listed now here in Germany @ all Ringfoto dealers
Shippment date : Dec
Limited quantities
Price tag Germany : 1099 €


Looking forward to the first comparisons with a real production copy of this lens.

Seems to be available in E-mount only. Very sad story. Would really prefer a M-mount version for more versatility.


PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Exciting! Like 1


PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
tb_a wrote:
sch8mid wrote:
Ordered Smile
Lens is listed now here in Germany @ all Ringfoto dealers
Shippment date : Dec
Limited quantities
Price tag Germany : 1099 €


Looking forward to the first comparisons with a real production copy of this lens.

Seems to be available in E-mount only. Very sad story. Would really prefer a M-mount version for more versatility.


This is only a theory but I think that it would have to be recalculated to work correctly on Leica M. Sony has a thick filter stack. And modified Sony's with a thinner stacks preform better with rf glass and worse with native ones. According to some tests I saw.

But disregarding that, wouldn't it make sens to sell the APO line in M-Mount?


PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
blotafton wrote:

This is only a theory but I think that it would have to be recalculated to work correctly on Leica M. Sony has a thick filter stack. And modified Sony's with a thinner stacks preform better with rf glass and worse with native ones. According to some tests I saw.

But disregarding that, wouldn't it make sens to sell the APO line in M-Mount?


Well, the filter stack issue is primarily for wide angle lenses on the old sensor design; i.e. on the first A7 series. I didn't really see any problems on my A7R II besides lens based field curvature issues with only some lenses.

Indeed it would make sense to offer the APO line in M-mount for better compatibilities with other cameras and to use such lenses with the Techart AF adapter on the A7 series as well.
I have also some M-mount cameras and the Techart adapter for my A7R II. Therefore I doubt that I will spend as much for this lens for the usage on the A7R II in manual focus mode only.
It also remains to be seen if it's able to beat my Rodenstock Apo-Rodagon 50/2.8 which is a very nice AF lens on my A7R II / Techart PRO combination.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
New sample from Cosinas website .
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/e-mount/e-50mmF2/sample/01.html


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
sch8mid wrote:
New sample from Cosinas website .
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/e-mount/e-50mmF2/sample/01.html


That is rather good
Tom


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:
sch8mid wrote:
New sample from Cosinas website .
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/e-mount/e-50mmF2/sample/01.html


That is rather good
Tom

Judging by DOF it's not a (heavily) stopped down shot.
So quite a bit better than good, I think.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
They rarely post the MTF of their voigtlander lenses.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seems first copies of the Apo Lanthar appear in Japan.

Images mainly BW by a Member of Japan Photographers Association (JPS)
Mezondoleica

You have to scroll down
Sony A 9 with VOIGTLÄNDER Apo Lanthar 50mm/f2


https://twitter.com/cloudgallery7


PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just want to share my first experience with the new lens

- Incredibly sharp from corner to corner
- perfect walk around lens
- exifs - lensmagnification - 5 ibis stab work
- my new B/W lens of choice



A lot of stuff to read here :

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1625777


PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes it looks really good so far. I was worried about bokeh with 2 aspheric lens elements but it's not bad.

What I'd like to see now is how much 3d pop it has. I might get one.


PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just went through Fred's test on FM last night plus a few extra pages of pics, looks like it's going to be popular, it seems to match the Leica M 50 APO at 5x less cost, that's impressive, the only thing holding me back is a lack of a 28/2 APO in the lineup.


PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lightshow wrote:
I just went through Fred's test on FM last night plus a few extra pages of pics, looks like it's going to be popular, it seems to match the Leica M 50 APO at 5x less cost, that's impressive,


Where did you see such a comparison with the Leica APO 50/2? Would be interested to see that as well.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=5975261

Discussion :

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1625777/26#15089329


PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
sch8mid wrote:
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=5975261

Discussion :

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1625777/26#15089329


Thanks for the link. IMHO these two example pictures don't really tell very much.
In the FM discussion the CA's are more than noticeable in the example pictures and seem to be worse compared to e.g. the CV 65mm APO lens.
To call it APO-Lanthar seems therefore a little bit optimistic like Cosina did with the old 90/3.5 lens. Nonetheless, resolution and constrast seems to be very good.

Therefore I'm not convinced yet that it will really beat the APO-Summicron in every respect. Hopefully LensRentals or alike will do a comparison in the next future. At least they are trustworthy.

Until further I prefer to use my Summicron 50/2 which isn't bad as well and its additionally usable with AF support with my Techart adapter; i.e. for me the APO Lanthar must be substantially better to consider it at all.

I like my CV's in LTM and LM mount very much and have quite many from 12 to 90 mm. Cosina did really a great job so far.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I see in the reviews of this lens a 58mm cap on the hood. My line of thinking for my FE native, converted and adapted lenses.




PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Impressive lens!! Like 1 Like 1 Like 1

Still amazed about my CV Apo Macro 2.5/125mm... Wink


PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmm, shame I don't have E-mount otherwise this would be the perfect lens. Maybe they will make something equivalent in m43 someday, but I doubt such performance can be packaged as an F0.95, especially so compact - but not for any reasons I could understand, particularly at that price.
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