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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:17 pm Post subject: New toy: Tamron SP 2.5/90 macro (52BB) |
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Aanything wrote:
I received this lens yesterday evening, it came from a badly described local ad at a reasonably low price, so I didn't get too angry when I noticed some fungus behind the front and rear element: in the end it took me about an hour to disassemble the two elements, soak them in cold cream and wipe the stuff away - I had some problems in reassembling it but mostly because of my less than perfect manual skills.
However, now the lens is perfectly clean. Build quality surprised me, as it looks plasticky from outside, but then is heavy and solid like the old Tamron SP lenses (however, I like the look of its predecessor much better). I also found the time to shoot some samples taking advantage of late afternoon autumn light:
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First impression is very good: that thing is sharp (at all apertures), contrast is on the strong side, and colors are nicely saturated, plus it gives me a much more comfortable working distance than my other macro (mamiya sekor 60/2.8).
Shall I find a problem with the lens, I'd say that you need either the TC or the matched extension tube to get to 1:1.
The hood is warmly recommended. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
It's a great lens, and a hood is a good addition. I think I have a Tamron MC01F X2 converter spare as well, let me know if you're interested. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Congrats, looks like a useful macro lens! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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StyxD
Joined: 18 Nov 2014 Posts: 79 Location: Italia
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:31 am Post subject: |
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StyxD wrote:
I have the same lens and I'm VERY happy with it, I bought it as a portrait lens but in fact I'm using it as a macro all the time.
I guess there could be several other gems among the Adaptall family (plus, the construction is rock solid). _________________ Powered by Sony A7ii, Canonet QL17 G-III, Konica Hexar RF and:
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
StyxD wrote: |
I guess there could be several other gems among the Adaptall family (plus, the construction is rock solid). |
Nice samples. Yes, I too suspect there are many: infact all the adaptall lenses I had (2.5/24, 2.5/28, 3.5/200, SP 70-210/3.5, SP 2.8/300 LD IF, SP 8/500) were at least good. I'd be very curious to try the SP 2.5/180, but it seems quite hard to find one. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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davev8app
Joined: 09 Dec 2010 Posts: 134 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:35 am Post subject: |
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davev8app wrote:
good lens, i have this for my every day macro lens for my 5D, i used to borrow a AF macro but was always putting it in MF as often it not focus where i wanted it to so i think i will get a manual focus .. i pay £45 for it.. in the listing it just show the lens but when it came it was boxed with the 1.1 tube case lense hood etc so was well happy ..very contrasty colorful lens from wide open _________________ nex-3c MD f3.5 35-70mm macro.. rokkor 50-135 F3.5 FDn 50mm 1.4.. black jupiter 11 135 F4..big list of 28mm 35mm 50mm 135mm to see what are keepers 5D,40D ,20D, MF Tamron SP 90 F2.5 Macro, Canon 17-35 F2.8L, Canon 80-200 F2.8L Magic drainpipe, Tokina ATX 28-70 F2.6-F2.8 Pro11, Canon 17-55 F2.8 IS The slow one Canon 100-300 F5.6L. Lens i wish i never sold>> Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 180 mm f2.8< |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1749
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
I have the 52B, bought circa ten years ago (thrift shop) for US$10. They are higher today.
Thing is, I didn't realize there was any significant difference between the 52B and the 52BB. Always thought they were virtually indistinguishable. |
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
guardian wrote: |
I have the 52B, bought circa ten years ago (thrift shop) for US$10. They are higher today.
Thing is, I didn't realize there was any significant difference between the 52B and the 52BB. Always thought they were virtually indistinguishable. |
The difference is only aestethic, afaik optically it's the same lens.
In my opinion, the older one looks better - I really like the aspect of Tamrons from that period - but build quality is very good in the 52BB too, even if there's more plastic in it. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1749
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Aanything wrote: |
guardian wrote: |
I have the 52B, bought circa ten years ago (thrift shop) for US$10. They are higher today.
Thing is, I didn't realize there was any significant difference between the 52B and the 52BB. Always thought they were virtually indistinguishable. |
The difference is only aestethic, afaik optically it's the same lens.
In my opinion, the older one looks better - I really like the aspect of Tamrons from that period - but build quality is very good in the 52BB too, even if there's more plastic in it. |
Thank you for responding. It has taken me by surprise that there is more plastic in the 52BB. I didn't know that.
There are a few really good Tamron plastic lenses, of course. The 44A for example, a plastic lens not within the SP series, outshines even many Tamron SP lenses!! |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Beware the blue dot. _________________ Regards,
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Aanything
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
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Beware the blue dot. |
Yes, I read about it: I haven't met it yet, but I know it can happen. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
It's there, certainly if the sun is in shot or very close. I find that a slight movement of position usually minimises, or even gets rid, of it. But it is something that you can't get rid of with PP, well.....I haven't found a way. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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woodrim
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
It's there, certainly if the sun is in shot or very close. I find that a slight movement of position usually minimises, or even gets rid, of it. But it is something that you can't get rid of with PP, well.....I haven't found a way. |
That's curious. Would you mind emailing me an image that has it? I'm wondering if I could defeat it. _________________ Regards,
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Lloydy
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I will......when I find them. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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kryss
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
..the difference is,one is 1:2 other is 1:1 _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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Aanything
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
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..the difference is,one is 1:2 other is 1:1 |
adaptall-2.org says that both are 1:2 macro lenses, and both need either an extension tube or a 2x TC to get 1:1 magnification. I've never had a 52b, so I can't speak by direct experience. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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kryss
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Yes you are right,I have both + 018f extension tube and 200f 2x.018f best with 52bb and 200f with 52b giving 180mm f2.5, much lighter than my 63B. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
The blue spot problem - I took some pictures today that show the blue spot, and how little you have to move to avoid it. The lens definitely does not like the sun in the shot, but most lenses have some issues with that.
These two pictures - I took a series of maybe 6 or 7 pictures of the backlit leaf with the mid afternoon sun streaming through the trees behind, the bright spot at the top is the direct sun, in the second picture the sun is bottom left. All shot wide open with the correct lens hood. The good picture is the best, the other is the worst; and you can clearly see the partial blue spot. Closing the aperture makes the spot smaller but more defined.
I did a similar thing here but with the full sun, there was no leaves or branches in the way. The only picture without the spot was the one where the sun was behind the tree, but it was still very bright.
It's there......and it is something that you have to be aware of when using this lens as it isn't always clearly visible in either the viewfinder or the screen - it IS visible, but a slight blue spot will not always stand out. The Sony A6000 actually does a good job, better than I seem to remember the NEX5 doing.
It certainly doesn't put me off using this superb lens, the good backlit leaf shot is OK, there's no PP on the picture here but that would scrub up quite well. There's a lot of lenses out there that would be flaring horribly in the same situation. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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Lloydy
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Another 3 pictures, and I could not get the blue spot to appear on these. I kept the sun on the edge of the leaf but moved the camera angle slightly, no blue spot.
It's a great lens, I shall use it more often. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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kido
Joined: 06 Jun 2013 Posts: 105 Location: Chile
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: New toy: Tamron SP 2.5/90 macro (52BB) |
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kido wrote:
Great photos and great lens.
Aanything wrote: |
Shall I find a problem with the lens, I'd say that you need either the TC or the matched extension tube to get to 1:1.
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Of course, introducing additional glass is never desired but in this case the quality is really top notch. Getting the Tamron 01F 2x teleconverter and Tamron 18F extension tube gives you several new options for cheap. As far I understand this system (someone correct me if I'm wrong) you get:
1. bare lens = 90mm f/2.5 1:2 macro
2. lens + extension tube = 90mm f/2.5 1:1 macro
3. lens + teleconverter = 180mm f/5 1:1 macro
4. lens + teleconverter + extension tube = theoretically 180mm f/5 2:1 macro
There is some light loss involved and with the extension tube there is a very limited focus range, but it sure is a lot of fun for very little money. Tamron's 01F teleconverter is of great quality and well matched with the mentioned lens, there is very little IQ loss.
I shot these hand-held using both TC and ET + lens (I've already posted some of these photos before):
And these were done with just the TC + lens:
Some time ago I did a comparison to check the differences in quality and magnification when shooting wit different setups. You'll find it here if interested:
http://forum.mflenses.com/tamron-sp-90mm-and-teleconverter-and-extension-tube-comparisons-t63650.html
The only problem that I find with this lens is the amount of CA. Most of the time it can be easily corrected in PP, but sometimes it's a real challenge. _________________ [C&C] on my pictures are most welcomed. |
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woodrim
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Points of focus are plenty sharp. The bird is excellent - not easy to do. _________________ Regards,
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
kido wrote: |
Great photos and great lens.
Aanything wrote: |
Shall I find a problem with the lens, I'd say that you need either the TC or the matched extension tube to get to 1:1.
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Of course, introducing additional glass is never desired but in this case the quality is really top notch. Getting the Tamron 01F 2x teleconverter and Tamron 18F extension tube gives you several new options for cheap. As far I understand this system (someone correct me if I'm wrong) you get:
1. bare lens = 90mm f/2.5 1:2 macro
2. lens + extension tube = 90mm f/2.5 1:1 macro
3. lens + teleconverter = 180mm f/5 1:1 macro
4. lens + teleconverter + extension tube = theoretically 180mm f/5 2:1 macro
There is some light loss involved and with the extension tube there is a very limited focus range, but it sure is a lot of fun for very little money. Tamron's 01F teleconverter is of great quality and well matched with the mentioned lens, there is very little IQ loss.
I shot these hand-held using both TC and ET + lens (I've already posted some of these photos before):
The only problem that I find with this lens is the amount of CA. Most of the time it can be easily corrected in PP, but sometimes it's a real challenge. |
Thanks: I remember your thread with the comparison and was really surprised by how little the TC impacted image quality.
And that's great because I'm particularly attracted by the idea of getting 1:1 magnification while maintaining the longest possible working distance: I already have an excellent 1:1 macro lens (mamiya sekor/tomioka 2.8/60 macro) but you have to get really close to the subject (and by really I mean that front lens almost has to touch it), which is not very practical, especially with living things.
Oh, and great samples, btw: the bird in flight is really stunning. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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kido
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:47 am Post subject: |
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kido wrote:
Aanything wrote: |
Thanks: I remember your thread with the comparison and was really surprised by how little the TC impacted image quality.
And that's great because I'm particularly attracted by the idea of getting 1:1 magnification while maintaining the longest possible working distance: I already have an excellent 1:1 macro lens (mamiya sekor/tomioka 2.8/60 macro) but you have to get really close to the subject (and by really I mean that front lens almost has to touch it), which is not very practical, especially with living things. |
The first two portraits I posted were of feral cats, you couldn't get anywhere near them at the time (they have been successfully domesticated since then) and I did the "nostril shot" without waking up Luke So yes, I guess the longer the better and this kit performs pretty well at it. When using the teleconverter you get the 180mm lens while maintaining the close MFD. It makes for a very versatile setup, as long as you don't mind the f/5.
Truth be told, out of curiosity I went even further on my cheap-o quest. Since I received the Olympus 2X-A teleconverter bundled with some lens and happened to own the required adapters to make it work, I decided to stack two TCs and see what happens.
This particular Olympus TC seems to be quality piece of glass too, although not nearly as well matched for the Tamron's lens as the 01F is.
The setup became heavy, long, cumbersome and clunky. Difficult to use for anything other than some fun. Anyhow, I find the results quite surprising considering that at this point I was basically shooting through a novelty item. Here are a few samples (none has been cropped):
52BB + 01F + 2X-A (handheld)
52BB + 01F + 2X-A + extension tube (on tripod)
The aperture scale on yet another fabulous Tamron lens, the 105mm f/2.5
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Oh, and great samples, btw: the bird in flight is really stunning. |
woodrim wrote: |
The bird is excellent - not easy to do. |
Thank you. The fact that he was repeatedly attacking me was of great help.
That's the southern lapwing and these chaps do have some interesting habits during their mating and nesting season, one of which is trying to beat the crap out of anyone who dares anywhere near their eggs. Since they tend to build their nests in my yard, last year I went among these creatures with the camera to practice my skills. Even shared like two shots in Woodrim's "Birds in flight" thread. _________________ [C&C] on my pictures are most welcomed. |
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