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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: New toy arrived! (Tokina AT-X 2.8/24-40) |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Hi!
Yesterday, I got my newest toy: a Tokina AT-X 2.8/24-40.
I would say this lens is in "A-" condition, IOW pretty good.
The performance seems to be OK, but I have to testshoot it before I can judge it.
This is the lens compared to my Hoya HMC 3.5/25-42:
(All shots taken with the Vivitar 2.0/24 on EOS 350D, high ISO.)
The Hoya is a little bukier but also a little shorter.
I would love to do a comparison between these two lenses and two primes (24 and 35mm which is an alternative set for these zooms), but I have to work a lot ATM - and the weather is dreadful today. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Here are some quick snaps.
The distortion of the this lens at 24mm is clearly visible
but it gets better at 40mm without disappearing completely.
Anyway this considerable distortion is not that obvious in "real" shots:
A 100% crop of this photo, frame marked by the red box:
First short verdict: It seems to be prone to flare and should perhaps be used with a hood. The resolution seems to be good but it "suffers" from distortion. So, not bad for a zoom lens with this focal range, but presumably not even close to good primes. A later comparison will provide evidence, I guess. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10469 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats Carsten!
look a nice lens without CA and good resolution _________________ T* |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Good resolution and very low CA for such a wide zoom. The distortion is quite noticeable, but it looks like simple distortion rather than the annoying 'moustache' type so should be easy to fix. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Congrats for this nice lens! I look forward another samples in Gallery. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Barrel distortion is almost unavoidable in wide zooms - as long as you don't shoot architecture it should be ok.
It can be a handy lens on APS-C cameras as it covers the range from moderate wide to short tele.
It can be nice for walkarounds where portability is more important than strict quality. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
That's right, this kind of distortion can be corrected quite easily - if it is disturbing in a shot.
About the useful focal length, I am not so sure.
It offer an equivalent FoV from about 38mm to 64mm.
That would be just a few steps forwards and backwards when shooting a real 35mm or 28mm prime lens.
I think that on full frame the 24 to 40 mm (from real wide angle to almost "normal") are much more useful than the effective FoV on a crop cam.
Anyway, I like this lens, the way it looks and the way you handle it. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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dnas
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 488 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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dnas wrote:
Sorry for dragging up an old thread, but I snared one of these today for the bargain price of around $11 USD (equivalent)!!!!!!
Little bit of light fungus on the inside of the back element, which cleaned up very nicely!!!!! |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Congratulations!
I have sold my copy quite a while ago.
But sometimes I regret that. I would love to try it on my 5D. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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RDM
Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 27 Location: New York State, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:37 am Post subject: |
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RDM wrote:
dnas wrote: |
Sorry for dragging up an old thread, but I snared one of these today for the bargain price of around $11 USD (equivalent)!!!!!!
Little bit of light fungus on the inside of the back element, which cleaned up very nicely!!!!! |
I am not sorry to drag up an old thread.
I find its better than starting a new one on the same subject most times .
Congratulations on your great bargain. I would love to see some photos of that lens .. what mount Was it?
Wish I could come across a copy of this like you have so cheep. I won an auction on the same lens this past month. Auction ended when I was at the beach for the weekend, but even tho the seller stated on the page winner will have three days to pay, the seller let the owner take back the lens from his consignment shop the next day .. His excuse was that it has been 24 hours since the auction ended and the owner wanted his money or the lens back and I had not payed or contacted him... I guess some people don't believe in a Life outside of the internet... or even in their own rules....lol.
Anyway , its been 2 years , would love to see samples from this lens of yoru , and your opinion of it..
I already have its big sister, the AT-X 60-135mm f/2.8
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:01 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
I have sold my copy quite a while ago.
But sometimes I regret that. I would love to try it on my 5D. |
It's long gone! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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RDM
Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 27 Location: New York State, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:13 am Post subject: |
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RDM wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
LucisPictor wrote: |
I have sold my copy quite a while ago.
But sometimes I regret that. I would love to try it on my 5D. |
It's long gone! |
Ummm, yea I did see that you mentioned the lens was long gone, That is why I said "I would love to see some photos" instead of saying Lucis can you please take some. I just wanted to see if you or any one else had photos of it; whether taken in the past or recent. |
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TAo2
Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Posts: 319 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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TAo2 wrote:
It's an AF lens...so...wrong forum anyway? Being a newbie ah like tae be careful... |
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RDM
Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 27 Location: New York State, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:00 am Post subject: Oops, dont worry. |
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RDM wrote:
TAo2 wrote: |
It's an AF lens...so...wrong forum anyway? Being a newbie ah like tae be careful... |
Nope we were not talking about AF lenses .. at lease I was not .. Unless you meant that you first thought we were talking about an AF lens by mistake, in winch case, yea woops is right its OK we all make mistakes.
Scroll up photos show the Manual focus lens. |
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hifisapi
Joined: 25 Sep 2012 Posts: 941 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:54 am Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
I had one of these for a short while but I sold it due to the distortion being too much to live with.
I ended up replacing it with a SMC Pentax-A 24-50 which is excellent and nearly zero distortion. _________________ ===========
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Cameras: DSLR=Pentax istDS FILM=Pentax SP, SP-F, ESII, SP1000, KX, K2
Lenses : Pentax M42 = Super Multi Coated Takumars 50/1.4 55/1.8 100/4-BELLOWS 500/4.5 1000/8 135-600/6.7 Pentax PK= SMC Pentax-Ks K17/4-FF Fisheye K18/3.5 K20/4 K24/3.5 K28/3.5 K28/2 K35/3.5 K35/2 K50/1.2 K50/1.4K 50/4-MACROK 55/1.8 K85/1.8 K100/4-MACRO K100/4-BELLOWS K105/2.8 K120/2.8 K135/3.5 K135/2.5 K150/4 K200/4 K400/5.6 K45-125/4K 85-210/4.5 Pentax PKM = SMC Pentax-M M40/2.8-Pancake M50/1.4 M75-150/4 M80-200/4.5 Pentax PKA= SMC Pentax-A A15/3.5 A50/2.8-MACRO A28/2 A35/2 A50/1.4 A135/2.8 A200/4 A*300/4 A35-105/3.5 A24-50/4 A70-210/4 TAMRON AD2= SP80-200/2.8 SP180/2.5 TOKINA AT-X PK= ATX28-85/3.5-4.5 ATX35-70/2.8 ATX60-120/2.8 ATX80-200/2.8 ATX100-300/4 ATX90/2.5 MACRO KIRON-LESTER DINE PK = 105/2.8-MACRO VIVITAR PK = 135/2.8-MACRO 28-85/4 NOFLEXAR AUTOBELLOWS PK = 60/4 105/4 |
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Andrew G.
Joined: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 159 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Oops, dont worry. |
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Andrew G. wrote:
RDM wrote: |
TAo2 wrote: |
It's an AF lens...so...wrong forum anyway? Being a newbie ah like tae be careful... |
Nope we were not talking about AF lenses .. at lease I was not .. Unless you meant that you first thought we were talking about an AF lens by mistake, in winch case, yea woops is right its OK we all make mistakes.
Scroll up photos show the Manual focus lens. |
This lens was made in both AF and MF forms. _________________
DSLR: Nikon D40x
SLR: Nikon N2000, Nikomat FTn
Glass:
Nikon:28mm f/2.8 Ai, 28mm f/2.8 Ai-S, 2.8cm f/3.5 F, 28mm f/3.5 Ai-S, 50mm f/1.8 Ai, (2) 50mm f/1.8 Series E, 55mm f/3.5 Micro K, 55mm f/3.5 Micro Ai, 100mm f/2.8 Series E, 105mm f/2.5 F, 105mm f/2.5 Ai, 105mm f/2.5 Ai-S, 200mm f/4 Ai-S, Process-Nikkor 260mm f/10, TC-200
Third-Party: Vivitar 28mm f/2.5 preset, Vivitar 28mm f/2.5 TX, Tamron 28mm f/2.8 Adapt-A-Matic (v. 1), Vivitar 35mm f/1.9 (Canon FD), Vivitar 35mm f/2.8 T4, Tamron 135mm f/2.8 Adapt-A-Matic, Vivitar 135mm f/3.5 preset, Vivitar 200mm f/3.5, Soligor 200mm f/3.5 T4, Star-D 500mm f/8 Mirror, Sigma 15-30mm f/3.5-4.5 AF, Tamron 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 Adaptall-2 (44A), Hanimex 35-70mm f/2.8-3.8, [x2] Tamron SP 35-80mm f/2.8-3.8 Adaptall-2 (01A), Tokina AT-X 50-250mm f/4-5.6, Soligor 55-135mm f/3.5 T4, Vivitar 70-150mm f/3.8 (one-touch), Vivitar 75-205mm f/3.8 (one-touch), Soligor C/D 78-210mm f/3.5, Soligor C/D 100-300mm f/5
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RDM
Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 27 Location: New York State, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:49 am Post subject: |
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RDM wrote:
hifisapi wrote: |
I had one of these for a short while but I sold it due to the distortion being too much to live with.
I ended up replacing it with a SMC Pentax-A 24-50 which is excellent and nearly zero distortion. |
Yea but the SMC Pentax-A 24-50mm is allot slower. |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:08 am Post subject: Re: Oops, dont worry. |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Andrew G. wrote: |
RDM wrote: |
TAo2 wrote: |
It's an AF lens...so...wrong forum anyway? Being a newbie ah like tae be careful... |
Nope we were not talking about AF lenses .. at lease I was not .. Unless you meant that you first thought we were talking about an AF lens by mistake, in winch case, yea woops is right its OK we all make mistakes.
Scroll up photos show the Manual focus lens. |
This lens was made in both AF and MF forms. |
And I was only talking about the MF version! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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RDM
Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 27 Location: New York State, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Oops, dont worry. |
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RDM wrote:
Andrew G. wrote: |
RDM wrote: |
TAo2 wrote: |
It's an AF lens...so...wrong forum anyway? Being a newbie ah like tae be careful... |
Nope we were not talking about AF lenses .. at lease I was not .. Unless you meant that you first thought we were talking about an AF lens by mistake, in winch case, yea woops is right its OK we all make mistakes.
Scroll up photos show the Manual focus lens. |
This lens was made in both AF and MF forms. |
Also besides the fact that every comment was talking about the MF versions of this lens as well as showing photos of the MF lens this whole forum is for Manual Focus Lenses. |
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Andrew G.
Joined: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 159 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Oops, dont worry. |
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Andrew G. wrote:
RDM wrote: |
Andrew G. wrote: |
RDM wrote: |
TAo2 wrote: |
It's an AF lens...so...wrong forum anyway? Being a newbie ah like tae be careful... |
Nope we were not talking about AF lenses .. at lease I was not .. Unless you meant that you first thought we were talking about an AF lens by mistake, in winch case, yea woops is right its OK we all make mistakes.
Scroll up photos show the Manual focus lens. |
This lens was made in both AF and MF forms. |
Also besides the fact that every comment was talking about the MF versions of this lens as well as showing photos of the MF lens this whole forum is for Manual Focus Lenses. |
Of course. However, I felt it was worth mentioning that they're optically identical. _________________
DSLR: Nikon D40x
SLR: Nikon N2000, Nikomat FTn
Glass:
Nikon:28mm f/2.8 Ai, 28mm f/2.8 Ai-S, 2.8cm f/3.5 F, 28mm f/3.5 Ai-S, 50mm f/1.8 Ai, (2) 50mm f/1.8 Series E, 55mm f/3.5 Micro K, 55mm f/3.5 Micro Ai, 100mm f/2.8 Series E, 105mm f/2.5 F, 105mm f/2.5 Ai, 105mm f/2.5 Ai-S, 200mm f/4 Ai-S, Process-Nikkor 260mm f/10, TC-200
Third-Party: Vivitar 28mm f/2.5 preset, Vivitar 28mm f/2.5 TX, Tamron 28mm f/2.8 Adapt-A-Matic (v. 1), Vivitar 35mm f/1.9 (Canon FD), Vivitar 35mm f/2.8 T4, Tamron 135mm f/2.8 Adapt-A-Matic, Vivitar 135mm f/3.5 preset, Vivitar 200mm f/3.5, Soligor 200mm f/3.5 T4, Star-D 500mm f/8 Mirror, Sigma 15-30mm f/3.5-4.5 AF, Tamron 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 Adaptall-2 (44A), Hanimex 35-70mm f/2.8-3.8, [x2] Tamron SP 35-80mm f/2.8-3.8 Adaptall-2 (01A), Tokina AT-X 50-250mm f/4-5.6, Soligor 55-135mm f/3.5 T4, Vivitar 70-150mm f/3.8 (one-touch), Vivitar 75-205mm f/3.8 (one-touch), Soligor C/D 78-210mm f/3.5, Soligor C/D 100-300mm f/5
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RDM
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: Oops, dont worry. |
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RDM wrote:
Andrew G. wrote: |
RDM wrote: |
Andrew G. wrote: |
RDM wrote: |
TAo2 wrote: |
It's an AF lens...so...wrong forum anyway? Being a newbie ah like tae be careful... |
Nope we were not talking about AF lenses .. at lease I was not .. Unless you meant that you first thought we were talking about an AF lens by mistake, in winch case, yea woops is right its OK we all make mistakes.
Scroll up photos show the Manual focus lens. |
This lens was made in both AF and MF forms. |
Also besides the fact that every comment was talking about the MF versions of this lens as well as showing photos of the MF lens this whole forum is for Manual Focus Lenses. |
Of course. However, I felt it was worth mentioning that they're optically identical. |
Ohh I see now.. I didn't realize that was your point.. Yea they are.
I would suspect that the newest ones are probably a little better quality optically due to purity of materials and more modern manufacturing techniques.
I often wished I could find one that has Broken AF but would still MF fine but selling for real cheep. Even tho lately I mostly use my MF lenses on my Digital camera I still try to purchase them in the mount for my Film camera so i can still shoot some film with them occasionally. Since I have old Minolta and canon gear that would mean hacking the mount of an AF lens out there if I did this Idea. |
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