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vilva


Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Vantaa, Finland
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: My second rangefinder arrived |
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Surface mail from Italy takes time, but finally the Robot Royal 24 with the two Xenars arrived. It seems to be OK, in pretty good condition given its age. It feels very solid, weighs about 940g with the 45mm Xenar, is much easier to wind up than the Robot Star, and even the serial release works well. The rangefinder is at least as good as that of the FED-2, the base is insignificantly narrower and the contrast is about equal. Many constructional detail are pretty clever, e.g. locking the shutter release will partly cover the viewfinder ocular. Here it is, side by side with the FED-2, 75mm Tele-Xenar mounted:
More testing to do
Veijo _________________ VPK Meniscus Achromat , VPK Rapid Rectilinear, 1917 TTH Cooke Anastigmat, Cooke Aviar, Wray Lustrar, Aldis Uno, Goerz Dagor, Goerz Dogmar,
various 1930's Schneider-Kreuznach folder lenses
M42: Industar, Helios, Jupiter, Takumar, Schneider-Kreuznach, CZJ et al, Voigtlander; Carl Zeiss for C/Y;
Leitz: 35 mm Summicron-R, 50mm Summicron-R, 60mm Macro-Elmarit-R, 90mm Elmarit-R, 135mm Elmarit-R, 180mm Elmar-R |
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Katastrofo


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 4392 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Looks to be very well-made and nice to have the two lenses (50mm and
80mm?). Congrats! |
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vilva


Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Vantaa, Finland
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Katastrofo wrote: | Looks to be very well-made and nice to have the two lenses (50mm and
80mm?). Congrats! |
Thanks. 45mm and 75mm. About the construction, see the following page describing the similar Robot Royal 36 (36x24mm instead of 24x24mm): http://www.lumieresenboite.com/collection2.php?l=2&c=Berning_Robot_Royal_36
Veijo _________________ VPK Meniscus Achromat , VPK Rapid Rectilinear, 1917 TTH Cooke Anastigmat, Cooke Aviar, Wray Lustrar, Aldis Uno, Goerz Dagor, Goerz Dogmar,
various 1930's Schneider-Kreuznach folder lenses
M42: Industar, Helios, Jupiter, Takumar, Schneider-Kreuznach, CZJ et al, Voigtlander; Carl Zeiss for C/Y;
Leitz: 35 mm Summicron-R, 50mm Summicron-R, 60mm Macro-Elmarit-R, 90mm Elmarit-R, 135mm Elmarit-R, 180mm Elmar-R |
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Richard_D


Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2397 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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The two lenses should be a handy combination. Looks a nicely thought out design too. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come... |
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LucisPictor


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 8049 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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What a fascinating piece of camera history! Congratulations!
BTW...
Hans Grahner: "Robot. Das Sammlerbuch", 132 pp, 330 b&w images, Aachen 2002. € 39,90
Available at Lindemanns Fotobücher. www.lindemanns.de
(Only in German, but as far as I remember you can read German, right?)
http://www.lindemanns.de/4DCGI/1345459262/TitelAnzeige/348117 _________________ There are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide the world into two kinds of people, and those who don’t.
"KAPCTEH" | "Karusutenu" | "Carsten" | T-shirt?
Cams in use: EOS 40D, EOS 350D, EOS 50e, EOS 500, Spotmatic SPII, EXA I & 1c, Zenit EM; Oly 35RC,Minolta Hi-Matic E & F, Ricoh 500RF, Yashica Electro 35 GS, FED-3b and some others...
Lenses in use: Asahi Pentax: 2.8/28;3.5/35;1.4/50;1.7/50;2.8/105;3.5/135;28-80 | Canon (AF):1.8/50;17-85;75-300 | Former GDR: CZJ Flek 4/20; Pentacon 3.5/30; Pentaflex 1.8/50; CZJ 2.8/50; CZJ 4/135; Pentacon 4/200 | Fujinon: 43-75 on sale! | Hanimex: 3.5/23 on sale!; 4/100;80-200 | Hoya: 25-42;80-205 | Leica: Elmarit-R 2.8/35; Summicron 2.0/50 | Mamiya: 1.8/55 | Minolta: 1.7/50 | Nikkor: 2.8/24;2/35;2/50;1.2/55;1.8/85;3.5/135 | West German: Zeiss 2.8/50; Ludwig 2.9/50; Meyer 2.8/100; Will 4.5/105;Schneider 3.5/135;Enna 3.5/135; Zeiss 4/135;Isco 4/135; Enna 4.5/240 | Olympus: 3.5/28;1.4/50;3.5/135 | Rikenon: 1.7/50 on sale!;35-70 | Rollei/Voigtländer: 1.4/55;1.8/50 | Russian: Peleng3.5/8; Zenitar2.8/16; MIR2.8/37; Volna2.8/50; Industar2.8/50; Industar3.5/50; Industar3.5/5cm; Helios2/50; Helios2/58; MIR38 3.5/65; Volna2.8/80; Jupiter2/85; Kaleinar2.8/100;Tair2.8/133; Jupiter3.5/135; Jupiter4/135;Telear3.5/200;Jupiter4/200; Tair4.5/300;RF: Jupiter2.8/35;Industar2.8/53 | Sigma: 28-85;28-105(AF);17-70(AF) | Soligor: 28-105;35-200;70-220 | Tamron: 2.5/24;2.5/135;60-300;70-210 | Tokina: 28-105;80-200;12-24(AF);70-210(AF) | Vivitar: 3.5/17;2/24 on sale!;2/28;2.5/28;2.8/28 | Yashica: 2/5cm | Other Japanese: Cosina3.8/20; Albinar2.8/28; Porst1.8/35; Beroflex 8/500; Spiratone28-200; Maginon70-210
Green are the lenses I shoot the most.
More? http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 |
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Laurence


Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 2262 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Veijo, this is FASCINATING!
I get a huge thrill out of seeing this workmanship; it's simply obvious that these cameras are JEWELS of the camera world.
Did you happen to listen to the .wav sound of the winder and shutter? WOw, WOw, WOw!
The lenses, the cameras -- all just incredible. _________________
Cameras in Use: Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5, Revueflex 3003 w/ M42 lenses, Yashica Electro 35 w/ Yashinon 1.7, Voigtlander Bessa R w/ APO Lanthar 90/3.5, Contaflex 126 w/ Zeiss Pantar, Tessar, Sonnar, and Distagon |
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Jesito


Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 2476 Location: Sitges, (Spain)
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats, Veijo!
The Robot looks wonderful, nice design!
BTW, how do you shot the cameras?.
I like very much how they look in your pictures...
Jes. _________________ Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 18-200, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro (Adaptall)
Fixed CZJ Planar 50mm 1.7, Helios 44-2, Cosinon 28mm, CZJ Sonnar 135, Industar-61, Jupiter-9, Industar-50, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Weltblick 135mm
DSLR Canon 350D, Pentax *1stDS, SIGMA SD9, SIGMA
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Mamiya 645E, Petri 6x45, Nettar
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, Pentax SF7, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S,
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Olympus 35RC, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret LR, Welta Welti-I, Argus C4, Kodak Signette 25, Zorki-4, Bessa-R
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Minox 35 ML, Canon Prima Super 105
Compact Digital Caplio GX100, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot 520
Life is that boring wasted time in between two pictures |
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vilva


Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Vantaa, Finland
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| LucisPictor wrote: | What a fascinating piece of camera history! Congratulations!
BTW...
Hans Grahner: "Robot. Das Sammlerbuch", 132 pp, 330 b&w images, Aachen 2002. € 39,90
Available at Lindemanns Fotobücher. www.lindemanns.de
(Only in German, but as far as I remember you can read German, right?) |
Thanks. I read German well enough, and the price of the book is OK, but I try very hard not to start collecting. The Robots I have are strictly for shooting.
Veijo _________________ VPK Meniscus Achromat , VPK Rapid Rectilinear, 1917 TTH Cooke Anastigmat, Cooke Aviar, Wray Lustrar, Aldis Uno, Goerz Dagor, Goerz Dogmar,
various 1930's Schneider-Kreuznach folder lenses
M42: Industar, Helios, Jupiter, Takumar, Schneider-Kreuznach, CZJ et al, Voigtlander; Carl Zeiss for C/Y;
Leitz: 35 mm Summicron-R, 50mm Summicron-R, 60mm Macro-Elmarit-R, 90mm Elmarit-R, 135mm Elmarit-R, 180mm Elmar-R |
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vilva


Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Vantaa, Finland
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Laurence wrote: | | Did you happen to listen to the .wav sound of the winder and shutter? WOw, WOw, WOw! |
Yes, I did. However, those sound samples tell only half the story, the shutter is almost noiseless, I think it is even more quiet than a Rolleiflex TLR. Advancing the film makes most of the noise.
Veijo _________________ VPK Meniscus Achromat , VPK Rapid Rectilinear, 1917 TTH Cooke Anastigmat, Cooke Aviar, Wray Lustrar, Aldis Uno, Goerz Dagor, Goerz Dogmar,
various 1930's Schneider-Kreuznach folder lenses
M42: Industar, Helios, Jupiter, Takumar, Schneider-Kreuznach, CZJ et al, Voigtlander; Carl Zeiss for C/Y;
Leitz: 35 mm Summicron-R, 50mm Summicron-R, 60mm Macro-Elmarit-R, 90mm Elmarit-R, 135mm Elmarit-R, 180mm Elmar-R |
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vilva


Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Vantaa, Finland
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesito wrote: | Congrats, Veijo!
The Robot looks wonderful, nice design!
BTW, how do you shot the cameras?.
I like very much how they look in your pictures... |
Thanks. These days I mostly take hand-held shots in existing light, usually with the 5D. Previously I used my old Sony DSC-F505 digicam, which has more DOF, which compensates for the lower sensitivity as I can shoot at the full f/2.8 aperture. I haven't paid too much attention to the quality of my camera photos, I always seem to be too much in a hurry. However, nice photos are an asset, and I hope I'm able to improve in this respect in the future.
Veijo _________________ VPK Meniscus Achromat , VPK Rapid Rectilinear, 1917 TTH Cooke Anastigmat, Cooke Aviar, Wray Lustrar, Aldis Uno, Goerz Dagor, Goerz Dogmar,
various 1930's Schneider-Kreuznach folder lenses
M42: Industar, Helios, Jupiter, Takumar, Schneider-Kreuznach, CZJ et al, Voigtlander; Carl Zeiss for C/Y;
Leitz: 35 mm Summicron-R, 50mm Summicron-R, 60mm Macro-Elmarit-R, 90mm Elmarit-R, 135mm Elmarit-R, 180mm Elmar-R |
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