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eggplant
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:29 pm Post subject: Most recent photographic Petzval lens? (non-lomography) |
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eggplant wrote:
I know Petzvals for projection - particularly fast projection lenses- are as well documented / popular as Double-Gauss or triplet designs, which leaves me wondering what the history is for them on consumer photographic equipment like SLRs.
I can't seem to find any lenses derived from them, even though in the projection world many field flatteners and extra doublet-splitting had occured to bring speeds faster than f1.2 across a wider field. Many designs like Sonnars and Ernostars atleast had some commercial consumer examples produced well into the 1950s.
Literally, in the "Objective lenses f/1 and greater" post I made, the first designs discussed and noted for their popularity are Petzvals.
Is it a coincidence that alot of these projection designs are for 16mm film and similar small sizes? Why would going from, say, APS-C / super35 to full frame be too much of a challenge for this lens design?
To be honest, I probably know the answer- symmetrical / asymmetrical Double Gauss designs probably just offered better correction overall for similar effort for a manufacturer.
But still, they were popular for projection well into the 1970s and beyond. So I am curious- what's the most recent photographic Petzval lens you can think of?
Might I add, I know telescope petzvals are a thing, and I know roughly it's a popular design for similarly slow telephoto lenses. I'm abit more curious if there was any that were similarly fast speed/wider focal lengths as the projection ones that are popular.
EDIT: there is a good list here http://forum.mflenses.com/roger-cicala-tests-lomographys-petzval-lens-t67138.html#1397448 but a great deal of them are projection, only a handful not, and those which aren't are long focal lengths. |
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Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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eggplant
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
I specified non-lomography! |
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visualopsins
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
eggplant wrote: |
I specified non-lomography! |
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Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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