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calvin83
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 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: Mitakon MC 85mm F2 Made in China |
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Lens and the box
Lovely coating reflections
Lens spec.:
* Focal length: 85mm
* Angle of view: 28.5 °
* Lens Construction: six elements six groups, Double Gaussian
* Minimum Aperture: F22
* Minimum Focus Distance: 0.85m
* Filter Diameter: 52mm
* Size: 64 (diameter) × 58 (length) mm
* Weight: 270 grams
* Price: approximate $80 USD
(This lens is available in Canon EF and Pentax PK. The Nikon AI version will be available in the future.)
The Mitakon brand belongs to a Japanese company. In the 1980’s, they setup a joint venture company with a Chinese company in Shenyang City. The company was changed to a private company nameed SHENYANG MITACON OPTICAL ELECTRONIC CO., LTD. in 2004.
The Mitakon Multicoated 85mm F2 is the first 85mm made in China lens. For the Canon EF version, it comes with an AF confirm chip (exif: 85mm F2 fixed). The lens is made of metal with rubber focus ring. Construction of the lens looks solid but the finishing of the metal parts could be better. There is little plastic dust in the copy I have. No accessory or manual is include but the spec of the lens and company information in the both side of the box.
Here are the samples of the lens from F2 to F8 for testing the sharpness and CA of this lens. All of them are crop from the centre part of the image from a fine JPEG filetaken by a handheld Canon 350D/Rebel XT(i forgot to set the camera to raw.)
At minimum focus distance 0.85m
I ever used any 85mm primes but it is unbeatable with such low price tag. More information will come later once the lens goes to the real owner.
The lens seems optimised for portrait so the best focus distance should be a few meters. The follwoing link shows its best.
http://photo.zol.com.cn/photo_fdjnd_335483_1.html
Please forgive me if the above sample make you feel this is not a good lens. It has its own strength, though it have its own weakness.
Thanks for reading my first lens preview thread. 
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indianadinos
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it looks interesting, especially for that price ...
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for sharing! Worst 85mm prime what I ever seen, please don't take it personally 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | Thank you for sharing! Worst 85mm prime what I ever seen, please don't take it personally |
We'll see I asked calvin83 to get this lens for me from China because I was curious how a modern double-Gauss 85/2 could perform as a portrait lens. Its application is, obviously, portraiture, so I'll test it on appropriate subjects (I don't think it was optimized for infinity focusing wide open). The lens was designed with the modern optical design software, and has modern multicoating, so I expect it to be at least better than the Sonnar-formula Jupiter-9. There's a large thread about it in Chinese:
http://bbs.fengniao.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1641211
and
http://bbs.fengniao.com/forum/1637979.html
By the way, its "maiden name" was SYZYGX
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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no CA [purple fringing] whatsoever! 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| aoleg wrote: | | Attila wrote: | | Thank you for sharing! Worst 85mm prime what I ever seen, please don't take it personally |
We'll see I asked calvin83 to get this lens for me from China because I was curious how a modern double-Gauss 85/2 could perform as a portrait lens. Its application is, obviously, portraiture, so I'll test it on appropriate subjects (I don't think it was optimized for infinity focusing wide open). The lens was designed with the modern optical design software, and has modern multicoating, so I expect it to be at least better than the Sonnar-formula Jupiter-9. There's a large thread about it in Chinese:
http://bbs.fengniao.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1641211
and
http://bbs.fengniao.com/forum/1637979.html
By the way, its "maiden name" was SYZYGX |
Looks very promicing based on these threads but samples from this specific copy are not so good, or may be this is just a shooting condition and subject. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| aoleg wrote: | | Attila wrote: | | Thank you for sharing! Worst 85mm prime what I ever seen, please don't take it personally |
We'll see I asked calvin83 to get this lens for me from China because I was curious how a modern double-Gauss 85/2 could perform as a portrait lens. Its application is, obviously, portraiture, so I'll test it on appropriate subjects (I don't think it was optimized for infinity focusing wide open). The lens was designed with the modern optical design software, and has modern multicoating, so I expect it to be at least better than the Sonnar-formula Jupiter-9. There's a large thread about it in Chinese:
http://bbs.fengniao.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1641211
and
http://bbs.fengniao.com/forum/1637979.html
By the way, its "maiden name" was SYZYGX |
You have right , linked samples are excellent.
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calvin83
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: |
You have right , linked samples are excellent. |
I take these photos in my home with so they are not going to be attrative. My intention is to tell the forum members about the details of this new MF lens. Aoleg will show us more attractive photos for sure. 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | Thank you for sharing! Worst 85mm prime what I ever seen, please don't take it personally |
Calvin i think you buried Mitakon lens with your samples .
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| aoleg wrote: | | Attila wrote: | | Thank you for sharing! Worst 85mm prime what I ever seen, please don't take it personally |
We'll see I asked calvin83 to get this lens for me from China because I was curious how a modern double-Gauss 85/2 could perform as a portrait lens. Its application is, obviously, portraiture, so I'll test it on appropriate subjects (I don't think it was optimized for infinity focusing wide open). The lens was designed with the modern optical design software, and has modern multicoating, so I expect it to be at least better than the Sonnar-formula Jupiter-9. There's a large thread about it in Chinese:
http://bbs.fengniao.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1641211
and
http://bbs.fengniao.com/forum/1637979.html
By the way, its "maiden name" was SYZYGX |
And what are you going to do with aberrations on min. focusing distance?
Though the blurring with fastest aperture is good for making some closeups of a lady |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, do give us some portrait photos. The photos from the link look interesting.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Pancolart wrote: | | Attila wrote: | | Thank you for sharing! Worst 85mm prime what I ever seen, please don't take it personally |
Calvin i think you buried Mitakon lens with your samples . |
Check the modify the post.
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Exakta: Quinaron 2.8/35, Tele-Quinar 2.8/135
Enlargers: GreatWall 3.5/90(build in helicoid), Meopta 4.5/135, Ross 4/9cm, Elgeet 4.5/90, Meyer 4,5/105, Travegar 105mm F3.5 and some TTH enlargers
Others: Tokina AT-X 2.5/90 C/Y, Yashica ML 1.4/50, Jupiter 8 red p 2/50 LTM, Kilfitt 5.6/300 M39, Hexar 3.5/75, Xenon 1.9/50 DKL, Quinon 1.9/50 DKL, Heligon 1.9/50 DKL, Eurygon 4/35 DKL, Helios 33, Helios 44 m39, Sonnar T 1.5/50 and 2/85 RF, Xenotar 2.8/80 m39x.75
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aoleg
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| vulko wrote: | And what are you going to do with aberrations on min. focusing distance?
Though the blurring with fastest aperture is good for making some closeups of a lady |
Precisely It's a portrait lens the way Jupiter-9 is. I expect it to be soft and full of spherical aberrations wide open, yet the coatings and blackening hopefully retaining good contrast in difficult lighting conditions. If I need a sharp lens, I will stop down; double-Gauss designs, unlike Sonnars, sharpen up very quickly when stopped down (Sonnars, on the contrary, are designed to perform their best at or near wide open apertures).
I think it's too early to judge a lens by a couple of 100% crops made with a picel-packed APS-C camera
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: |
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You're right. Samples elsewhere are pretty nice. I would try importing this lens to Slovenia. Does anyone have a contact email perhaps?
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Pancolart wrote: | | You're right. Samples elsewhere are pretty nice. I would try importing this lens to Slovenia. Does anyone have a contact email perhaps? |
Let me test this lens out; if it works out good, and more people are interested, we could probably do a group buy and get factory prices. (I have a local friend who's also interested in this lens, so I will be getting another one if it's as good as it appears to be).
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