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kenetik
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The Sigma 600 does a very good job, especially considering the focal length. It has a longer focus throw than the Vivitar 600mm solid cat I have and is easier to focus.
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ZoneV wrote:
Whow, good images in this thread! I have to use my russian mirror lens 3M-5A more often!
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bernhardas
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The many good images in this thread animated me to take out the Tokina again this morning.
My impression from today is that while the very far and very near are not as sharp as I would wish, the middle distances are quite OK.
Focus bracketing is of course critical.
One from this morning straight out of LR
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Ouwesok
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Ouwesok wrote:
Tamron 55B at Pentax K20D
Fox by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Common Kestrel by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Grey Leg Goose by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Also usefull for shy insects
Green-eyed Hawker by Ouwesok, on Flickr
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kenetik
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kenetik wrote:
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The many good images in this thread animated me to take out the Tokina again this morning.
My impression from today is that while the very far and very near are not as sharp as I would wish, the middle distances are quite OK.
Focus bracketing is of course critical.
One from this morning straight out of LR
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Gorgeous shot Bernhardas. The Tokina is a very good lens, as shown in your pic here it has excellent contrast and can be very sharp, and I still think this lens is a bargain.. I think that being better at less than infinity and long distance is probably true of all mirrors.
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bernhardas wrote:
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The many good images in this thread animated me to take out the Tokina again this morning.
My impression from today is that while the very far and very near are not as sharp as I would wish, the middle distances are quite OK.
Focus bracketing is of course critical.
One from this morning straight out of LR
Gorgeous shot Bernhardas. The Tokina is a very good lens, as shown in your pic here it has excellent contrast and can be very sharp, and I still think this lens is a bargain.. I think that being better at less than infinity and long distance is probably true of all mirrors. |
Thanks.
Well they are definitely a bargain,as the whole set in good condition can often be found for half the price of a Tamron.
I think at some point of timne I will definitely try one of the other better Mirrors but my Budget for this year was already blown in March  |
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Rolf
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Rolf wrote:
Here again 3 samples with Leica 8/500mm mirror and Nikon D700
Many thanks Olivier. Will send you within the next days a PM !
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Olivier wrote:
Thx Rolf !
I love these pictures, particularly the Hamburger clown ! 
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
Thanks, folks, keep them coming. Rolf: My wallet shivers when I see the Leica name.
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Nordentro wrote:
3M-5CA again 
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Nordentro wrote:
And the Soligor C/D 300mm
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Nordentro: Now that's what I like. The first one has some good pop, the second has pop, poop too.
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drjs wrote:
Just curious. Do everyone use lens shade for mirror lens? I wonder if you loss much contrast by not using it.
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drjs wrote:
Here are some of my examples. Tamron 55BB shot on a mixture of crop sensor (Canon 550D, T2i) or full frame (SONY A7)
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bernhardas
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bernhardas wrote:
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| Just curious. Do everyone use lens shade for mirror lens? I wonder if you loss much contrast by not using it. |
The two that I have flare BADLY so I always use a deep hood. An example of the Tokina 500 where sunlight hit the front element despite the hood being on:
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Olivier
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Olivier wrote:
The Tamron 55B has a built-in Hood. So I always use it.
Congrats drjs for your pictures !
Very neat and clear, good contrast, good composition.
Seeing your moon shot, it made me remember these ones I uploaded in a topic comparing different lenses mounted on the Olympus PEN E-P2 : Canon EF 70-200 F4 + Kenko extender x1,4 ; Tamron 55B + Tamron SP 01F doubler ; Tamron 55B alone.
That makes respectively in eq full frame format : 560mm, 2000mm, 1000mm.
http://forum.mflenses.com/moon-shots-with-different-combos-tamron-sp-500-f8-t64913,highlight,%2Bmoon.html
Here is the 55B alone
Pen E-P2 + Tamron SP 500 F8 without doubler. ISO 400, 1/160s.
That makes 1000mm eq 24x36 as the m4/3 format is half the full frame format.
cropped to fill the frame
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Rolf
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Rolf wrote:
Great images here. The best mirror thread so far.
Below few samples with Leica 8/500mm mirror and D700/D800
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ZoneV
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ZoneV wrote:
3M-5A on EOS 5D
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drjs
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drjs wrote:
Thanks for all these wonderful pictures. I am a true believer that in the age of excellent ISO performance, focus peaking and automated exposure compensation via auto ISO, these mirror lens will find many new interesting applications where it was impossible in the film days.
Further, I also want to observe that most of the examples don't seem to exhibit the donut shaped brokeh which was suppose to be super common when using mirror.
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marcusBMG
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Further, I also want to observe that most of the examples don't seem to exhibit the donut shaped brokeh which was suppose to be super common when using mirror. |
Happy to oblige
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Nordentro wrote:
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| Nordentro: Now that's what I like. The first one has some good pop, the second has pop, poop too. |
3D poop! 
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Lloydy wrote:
I did a bit of a comparison today between the Canon FD 500 / 8 -which has slight fungus, a Tamrom 55B 500 / 8 and a Phoenix ( Samyang ) 500 / 8.
I took the same series of pictures with each lens, used the Sony A6000 and a Benbo tripod, I did try some hand held but I can't hold a camera steady enough to get consistent results, I'd much rather use a tripod or monopod.
I have adjusted the levels on most of these, mainly to be kind to the Phoenix / Samyang for which I haven't got the right hood, I used a collapsible rubber hood which was long enough but far too wide, and wasn't enough. I tried the lens later with a roll of black card for a hood and the difference was amazing.
All shot at ISO 500. The furnace is about 3/4 mile away and the power poles just over a mile. I started to shoot some pictures showing the donut bokeh, but a guy turned up with a ride on grass cutter and made a dust storm!
Canon FD
Phoenix / Samyang
Tamron
The Canon is very good, especially considering it has some fungus and has been taken apart to clean the worst. It's the sharpest, and the easiest to focus.
The Tamron is close though, it's a very nice lens and well worth the money they sell for. Which is about the price of a new Samyang, which isn't quite in the same league. This lens demands the longest, tightest hood possible, even pointed away from the sun. If that is done then it isn't bad, it's advantage is that it is light and compact making it a walkabout lens. It doesn't have a tripod mount unlike the Canon and the Tamron, but the light weight is no problem using the cameras tripod mount.
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Rolf wrote:
I love this thread. Again D700 and Leica 8/500 mm mirror
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marcusBMG
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:17 pm Post subject: TAMRON 55BB |
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(my second one the bad one I started a thread about went back..) A couple of shots from the bird reserve. Pentax K-r.
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Flapper
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Registered to post a few examples of the Tamron 55B 500m mirror lens - including a couple of donuts. I picked mine up from Ludlow market for £80. I really like it - a valuable addition to the 'armoury'. These were taken with a D90. I have a D7000 now, so curious to see how it performs on that.
Thanks for all the valuable info on manual lenses. I have a burgeoning Tamron Adaptall collection that has the benefit of fitting both my D7000 and a backup Sony A700. On the basis of this forum I bought a Helios 44-2 which is a joy too.
[EDIT - Thanks, Mo, for posting my photos below. I'm not sure why they're no displaying on my post. The URLs are complete in the 'posting box' and the message previews ok, but the URLs don't seem to have translated to the forum page ] 
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