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Nelson



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Mirror comparaison Reply with quote
http://www.analog-photography.com/ranking/500_600mm.htm
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DSLR : EOS 350D
Pentacon 50 f1.8, 135 f2.8, 200 f4; TAIR 3S ; Helios 44/2 ; Rollei Planar 50 f1.8, Distagon 35 f2.8; Meyer Optik Orestegor 200 f4 Orestegor 300 f4; Tamron 24mm f2.5 01B, 300mm f5.6 670Au, 300mm f5.6 SP 54B, 500mm f8 SP 55B; Yashica 55mm f2.

Canon 100macro f2.8 ....USM Smile
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Attila



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't think so Tamron SP this bad.
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Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version

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tanheis



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That Tamron SP may be the earlier model... The newer model is tested in
http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/46-nikon--nikkor-aps-c/286-tamron-500mm-f8-sp-macro-adaptall-to-nikon-review--test-report
page under Nikon and it got MTF50 in LW/PH

Centre: 1551
Border: 1436

Canon 400 5.6L
f/5,6 f/8
Centre: 1657 1767
Border: 1655 1767

And 400mm shold be about same in resolution as 500mm.
That test was showing some other mirrors giving 2 times the resolution as Tamron so I wonder what 500mm lens would give MTF resolution of 3000
and even mirror? Smile
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Camera:EOS 20D
Lenses: Nikkor 24mm 2.8, Vivitar 28 2.8"FD", Canon 28 2.8 "FD", Pentacon 30 3.5, SMC Takumar 50 1.4, Nikkor 50mm 1.4,Olympus 50 1.8,Pentacon 50 1.8, EF 80-200 2.8L(the only AF lens), Tamron SP 90mm 2.5, Tokina 28-85 4, Tamron SP 35-80 2.8-3.8, Zeiss Planar 85/1.4,Nikon 105mm 1.8,Seimar 135 2.8, Tamron SP 300mm 5.6, Tamron SP 60-300 3.8-5.4, Tamron SP 500mm 8.0 Mirror
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Attila



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laughing My dream mirror lens made by Carl Zeiss Jena 500mm f4!

http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/czj_spiegelobjektiv_500mm_f4/
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Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version

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tanheis



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Laughing My dream mirror lens made by Carl Zeiss Jena 500mm f4!

http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/czj_spiegelobjektiv_500mm_f4/


That or the 1000mm version is what I saw in one camera repair company here. Smile
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Camera:EOS 20D
Lenses: Nikkor 24mm 2.8, Vivitar 28 2.8"FD", Canon 28 2.8 "FD", Pentacon 30 3.5, SMC Takumar 50 1.4, Nikkor 50mm 1.4,Olympus 50 1.8,Pentacon 50 1.8, EF 80-200 2.8L(the only AF lens), Tamron SP 90mm 2.5, Tokina 28-85 4, Tamron SP 35-80 2.8-3.8, Zeiss Planar 85/1.4,Nikon 105mm 1.8,Seimar 135 2.8, Tamron SP 300mm 5.6, Tamron SP 60-300 3.8-5.4, Tamron SP 500mm 8.0 Mirror
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Attila



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The king ! How much was it ? I expect $$$ price.
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Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version

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Laurence



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The 3M5CA is absent in this test, darn it. But, I guess the best "test" of all is whether or not it personally pleases me.

So far, the 3M5CA seems quite nice, and I'll have a better basis for an opinion once I use it for more images.
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Using: M42 lens system
Using: Contaflex 126 system
Using: Mamiya RB67 Pro-S system
Cameras in Use: Yashica Mat 124, Revueflex 3003, Yashica Electro 35, Pentax K110D, Contaflex 126, Mamiya RB67 Pro-S

Lenses in Use: Zeiss Tele-Tessar 135/2.8, Industar 50/3.5, Zeiss Sonnar 85/2.8, Zeiss Tessar 45/2.8, Zeiss Distagon 32/2.8, Tamron SP 35-80, Tamron SP 70-210, Soligor Macro 35-70, Vivitar 100-300, Mamiya-Sekor 65/4.5, Mamiya-Sekor 180/4.5, Zeiss Pantar 45/2.8
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Attila



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This test is hmm look Tamron SP for example...
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Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version

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Flor27



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
The king ! How much was it ? I expect $$$ price.


Not that much :

Click here to see on Ebay Cool

A quick sharpen test of my two last mirror lenses (click for full size pics) :

#1 Tokina RMC 500/8, OM mount (ISO 400):



2/ Vivitar "Solid Cat" 600/8, T/M42 mount (ISO 100)



The first tests I did with the Viv Solid Cat some weeks ago shown me a poor lens, but this one make me feel better. Next tests will involve MTO 3M-5CA too as a reference.
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