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kansalliskala
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 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: Mir 1B mount problem |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Anyone bumped into this: Mir 1B goes too deep to some m42 mounts. It turns almost 1/3 too much because of the bevel in the mount that I think is supposed to help attaching the lenses .. ?
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Poolhall
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Poolhall wrote:
I read somewhere that the Mir 1v is too long for some of the Canon Dslrs, and the mirror hits the back of the lens but mine have been ok on Pentax/Samsung mounts, and on my m42 cameras (several various Zenits and a Yashica), sorry I cant help more. |
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kansalliskala
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:39 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
I know the back hits mirror with film EOS. Fortunately it doesn't hit back lens but the ring around it. Last summer I got a surprising blackout when the mirror stuck in the up-position .. 
Basically my problem is the mount part of the Mir has just too small diameter and there is a bevel there too. It goes right inside the mount. The bevel in the mount is about 0,5 mm deep and 1 mm wide. Tried to pad it with some wire but it is not a very usable solution.
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kansalliskala
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Like this.
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naplam
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: |
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naplam wrote:
I had a similar problem when using the Mir with a contax/yashica adapter, it would usually be turned like 30 degrees too much, and the mirror would sometimes be blocked by the ring protecting the back lens. I trimmed that ring a bit (see the ----\ instead of -----| shape):
This lens is on its way to Dave (farside) in Ireland right now, by the way. |
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estudleon
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Did you try to place one "ring" done with starchy cork or hard rubber (like in olds cars motors).
Good luck.
Rino.
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kansalliskala
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
I though of that. It has to be very tiny. 0.5 x 1 ø 42 ?
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estudleon
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Well. I did a lot of these and it's easy.
The first isn't good? The second bad too? Not matter. the third or the fourth will be OK.
By few cents you will fit your lens in the right way. 
Again, good luck. 
Rino.
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Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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raay04
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: |
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raay04 wrote:
put a rubber O ring ,so it wont go in toomuch
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calvin83
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:18 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
My helios 44 M39 w/M42 adapter goes too deep into the M42-NEX adapter. I use a O-ring of 36mm inner diameter with 1.5cm thickness to fix the problem. Any O ring with similar size inner diameter should fix M42 lenses.
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kansalliskala
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:10 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
| calvin83 wrote: |
| I use a O-ring of 36mm inner diameter with 1.5cm thickness to fix the problem. |
1,5mm perhaps?
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Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
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calvin83
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:07 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
| kansalliskala wrote: |
| calvin83 wrote: |
| I use a O-ring of 36mm inner diameter with 1.5cm thickness to fix the problem. |
1,5mm perhaps? |
I ordered 1mm, 1.5mm and 2mm O-ring and I found the 1.5mm works best as the Helios goes too deep into the adapter. O-ring is elastic so it is hard to say which one works best without trial.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
This is probably why I think my MIR 1B is a touch soft.  I shall try an O ring behind it.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
You've got it bad? Try fitting a Jupiter 12 to your NEX!!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
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| You've got it bad? Try fitting a Jupiter 12 to your NEX!! |
Tell me more Phil, we need to know the secret. Start a new post and we will follow.....
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calvin83
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:55 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
| Lloydy wrote: |
| philslizzy wrote: |
| You've got it bad? Try fitting a Jupiter 12 to your NEX!! |
Tell me more Phil, we need to know the secret. Start a new post and we will follow..... |
If you do not want to do modification on the Jupiter 12, you may following this thread(in Chinese).
http://zupu.info/konica/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1575
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Lloydy wrote:
WTF ! no way........
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