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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: Minolta Rokkor PF 100mm f/2 |
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Attila wrote:
Any experience with this lens ? _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Nope! Just can tell you that Kadlubek estimates about 200,- for this lens.
(So about 120,- should be a good price...) _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I bought for 22 EUR Nobody want it because Minolta MD _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
What a great price! But you're right, Minolta MD lenses are really cheap to get at the moment. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3751 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:16 am Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Do you still own that lens (the Minolta MC 2/100mm) ? Did you ever use it, or is it just standing on a shelf ...?
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2913 Location: Eugene
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jamaeolus wrote:
Too bad I was late to the inexpensive minolta party.....
I still bought many different versions in the last few years and quite a few of the 58 1.4. I do not have this lens though and am curious to see what it can do. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
It's a great lens, wish I had one. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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Teemō
Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Posts: 586 Location: Australia
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Teemō wrote:
I have one but it lives on the shelf. I have made a few portraits with it on film but none of the open images I took are sharp or really in focus as much as they should have been - probably due to hand/shutter shake and missing focus by an inch. The ones stopped down to F5.6 were very detailed. At F2 the images have great depth and transition of focus, no matter the subject distance. Backgrounds are very creamy as you can imagine, and I think the colour balance is most neutral, even slightly cool, but the contrast is still lower than contemporary Rokkors - not a problem at all.
I would love to see more images from it too on full frame... as I only have m43 cameras digitally it is rather useless adapted, imo, becoming a 200mm F4 for which Minolta has an excellent model. It is rather large so I will buy a 100mm F2.5 to take out instead but I can't see myself ever selling the F2. I will however make sure to use it again when I shoot another roll in my SLR. It's rather similar optically to the earlier 135/2.8's, which I had and sold - that was a very nice lens besides the yellowed glass and rattly construction - heavy for sure, 530g, 105g more than the 100/2. |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3751 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Teemō wrote: |
I have one but it lives on the shelf. I have made a few portraits with it on film but none of the open images I took are sharp or really in focus as much as they should have been - probably due to hand/shutter shake and missing focus by an inch. ... At F2 the images have great depth and transition of focus, no matter the subject distance. |
Back in 2015 i did compare the classical Minolta portrait lenses (with exception of the 85 VariSoft). You can see their Bokeh and center resolution wider open here:
http://www.artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/466-bokeh-mc-1-7-85mm-md-2-85mm-ar-mc-2-100mm-mc-2-5-100mm-md-2-5-100mm
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Antoine
Joined: 08 Jan 2016 Posts: 298 Location: London
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Antoine wrote:
On this website, the author states it is mechanically fragile. Is it your experience?
http://www.personal-view.com/faqs/camera-usage/minolta-rokkor-lenses-faq _________________ Antoine
Sony A6000 APS-C and Sony A7 Rii
Minolta Fisheye MD Rokkor 7.5 mm f4, Fisheye MD 16 f2.8 MD R 17mm f4, MD R 20mm f2.8, MC VFC & MDIII 24mm f2.8, MD 28mm f2.0 &3.5, MD II 35mm 1.8, MD 45mm f2.0, MD 50mm f 1.2 & MD I f1.4, MC PG 58mm 1.2, MD 85mm f2.0, MD R 85mm f2.8 Varisoft, MC 85mm f1.7 MD R 100mm f2.5, MD R 100mm f4.0 macro, MD III 135mm f2.8, MD R 200mm f2.8 & 4.0, RF 250mm f5.6, MD 300mm f4.5, MD APO 400 mm f5.6, RF 500mm f8.0, RF 800mm f8.0 *2 300-s and 300-l
100 mm f4 macro bellows (5/4)
Vivitar 17mm f3.5, Elicar 300mm mirror f5.6, Zhongi turbo ii
Sigma 16mm f 2.8 fish eye
Zooms:24-50 mm f4, 35-70 mm f3.5 macro, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5, 50-135 f 3.5, 70-210 f4 and MD APO 100-500 mm f8 |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3751 Location: Switzerland
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stevemark wrote:
I have had one sample of the Minolta Auto Rokkor 2/100mm and two samples of the MC 2/100mm in my hands.
All three lenses were from Swiss owners, and all three were in perfect, like-new condition. Aperture mechanisms were pristine and focusing was smooth, but not as smooth as with the later MC-X lens series. The focusing ring of the AR/MC 2/100mm is thinner than the focusing ring of eg the MC-X 2.5/100mm, and therefore it may be damaged more easily.
But probably a Russian film-maker has different needs from a Swiss photographer
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Teemō
Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Posts: 586 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Teemō wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Teemō wrote: |
I have one but it lives on the shelf. I have made a few portraits with it on film but none of the open images I took are sharp or really in focus as much as they should have been - probably due to hand/shutter shake and missing focus by an inch. ... At F2 the images have great depth and transition of focus, no matter the subject distance. |
Back in 2015 i did compare the classical Minolta portrait lenses (with exception of the 85 VariSoft). You can see their Bokeh and center resolution wider open here:
http://www.artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/466-bokeh-mc-1-7-85mm-md-2-85mm-ar-mc-2-100mm-mc-2-5-100mm-md-2-5-100mm
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I'm surprised by how similarly they all perform. Subtle differences in overall contrast and 'glow'. The MD lenses definitely have better microcontrast but I'm not sure if they are definitely sharper in normal usage. I couldn't hope for an image as sharp on film except perhaps in a studio. I'll be able to try it again on the XD-7 now that I have one - the acute matte screen should make it easier to nail the focus. I just want a MC 100/2.5 for the 55mm threads and for it to be more compact, smoother to focus, less valuable to drop etc. I have the 4/4 MC-X 135mm F2.8 also and found it to be very clinical, and warm, and it has a lot of lateral CA in the light. I think the 100/2 should have less CA as the older Auto Rokkor PF 135/2.8 did. I should make a few shots on film to compare them critically, but that would be better left to those with A7's. The real challenge is finding an effective subject for the comparison.
It's 'heavy' to focus. There's a noticeable difference when focusing the lens out towards\against gravity. Mine is in quite worn exterior condition but with perfect glass, but it's actually still lighter to focus than my MC-X 135/2.8, 200/4, which are both in very good condition. The biggest problem is that all of the barrel segments on my lens rattle. None of my other Rokkors have such a poor fitting. It seems that any stiff focusing actually comes from the poor alignment of the focusing barrel on the focusing ring. If I apply any pressure on the top of the focusing ring, or too much at any other point, then it is very stubborn to turn - otherwise it is perfectly smooth. The problem really is the poor fitting causing internal resistance. The focusing barrel actually can rotate freely ever so slightly to either side, and it will be dragged with the focusing ring as a result - the helicoid is too thin and perhaps the grip too short to evenly distribute the force. |
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