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cbass
Joined: 27 Jul 2019 Posts: 441
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:34 am Post subject: |
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cbass wrote:
hasenbein wrote: |
Some may not like the push-pull action, but I find it very unproblematic with this lens. |
This is a motion that every man should be familiar and proficient with. I see no issue here. |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 834
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:13 am Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
cbass wrote: |
hasenbein wrote: |
Some may not like the push-pull action, but I find it very unproblematic with this lens. |
This is a motion that every man should be familiar and proficient with. I see no issue here. |
Indeed. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Great pic!!!!! |
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RokkorDoctor
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 Posts: 1268 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
A gem of a lens, the MDIII 75-150 f/4.
Positives:
- Very sharp across the whole frame right from wide-open at f/4
- High contrast
- Neutral colour balance
- Rarely has issues with flare/ghosting (when using the original deep hood!)
- Compact
- Full-metal construction apart from the aperture ring
- Perfect slightly-longer-than-average focus throw
- Very usable DOF scale at all focal lengths (tbh, the main reason I like push-pull zooms)
- Almost no internal volume change when zooming, so not a dust-pump
- Rear element is fixed in position, less chance of blowing air/dust over the sensor when zooming/focusing
- Fixed exit pupil when zooming/focusing: no colour shifts on older sensors
Negatives:
- For a short-range zoom slightly above average distortion at both ends, but non-complex simple barrel/pincushion so easy to correct in PP if desired
- Mild vignetting at f/4, but still good for a legacy zoom
- Some copies can exhibit a bit of zoom-creep when pointing straight up/down
I have used all Minolta MF zooms (apart from the Auto-Rokkors 50-100, 80-160 and 160-500), and IMO the MDIII 75-150 f/4 is the best of the lot, hands-down.
When I need to travel light and can't predict the subject matter, this one goes in the bag, always, together with an MDIII 35mm f/1.8 and MDIII 20mm f/2.8, and a 49mm close-up lens for unexpected near-macro use. For me that's a perfect travel combo. _________________ Mark
SONY A7S, A7RII + dust-sealed modded Novoflex/Fotodiox/Rayqual MD-NEX adapters
Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
Minolta majority of all Rokkor SR/AR/MC/MD models made
Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
Schneider-Kreuznach PC-Super-Angulon 28mm/2.8 (SR mount)
Bronica PS 35/40/50/65/80/110/135/150/180/200/250mm |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 834
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Don't you miss a 50? How good is your 20mm if you are using full frame?
Best. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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RokkorDoctor
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 Posts: 1268 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
No, I don't really miss a 50 in that package, I'll make up the difference in perspectives between the 35mm and 75mm by some footwork
For sure, ideally I would want every focal length in existence in my bag, but we are talking about a lightweight travel option here.
Besides, even when I do cary a 50mm, I find I rarely use it; somehow it is not a focal length that works well for me, much less so than a slightly longer 58mm, as odd as that may sound. Same goes for 28mm wide-angles; that is also not a focal length that appeals to me.
I do sometimes cary an MDIII 24-50 f/4 & MDIII 75-150 f/4 combo, but somehow I like the above one better for my needs. Whilst good, Minolta wide-angle zooms generally have bit of an issue with the MFD at the short end, and are missing a DOF scale which I use a lot.
The 20mm is good enough for 12 Mp full frame work for me. It has a slightly wavy field curvature, i.e. under close examination there is an intermediate ring-shaped area that is slightly less sharp than the center & corners, but it is still better than its MC 21mm f/2.8 predecessor in this respect. Like most short wide-angles, it has some complex "moustache" distortion, but still less than you would get in a zoom. It is one of the better 20mm lenses out there from what I understand. _________________ Mark
SONY A7S, A7RII + dust-sealed modded Novoflex/Fotodiox/Rayqual MD-NEX adapters
Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
Minolta majority of all Rokkor SR/AR/MC/MD models made
Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
Schneider-Kreuznach PC-Super-Angulon 28mm/2.8 (SR mount)
Bronica PS 35/40/50/65/80/110/135/150/180/200/250mm |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 834
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Thank you for your answers.
I did not practice the 20 so I am at odds here but I am interested. I have red a lot that the 21 was better and I find interesting that you disagree. Philip Reeve and others wrote about the mid zone dip of the 20 and it is for sure different if it is field curvature (can be compensated by focusing) or inherent softness.
I also like very much 58 but that is becoming very close to 75 when you use the zoom.
Maybe you might try the 45 and couple with a 24. That would not add weight or the number of lenses and the combination seems less extreme to my eyes. When I take the 45 I often end up with the majority of the pics taken with that lens...
Nice to hear about others experiences. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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RokkorDoctor
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 Posts: 1268 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
Thank you for your answers.
I did not practice the 20 so I am at odds here but I am interested. I have red a lot that the 21 was better and I find interesting that you disagree. Philip Reeve and others wrote about the mid zone dip of the 20 and it is for sure different if it is field curvature (can be compensated by focusing) or inherent softness.
I also like very much 58 but that is becoming very close to 75 when you use the zoom.
Maybe you might try the 45 and couple with a 24. That would not add weight or the number of lenses and the combination seems less extreme to my eyes. When I take the 45 I often end up with the majority of the pics taken with that lens...
Nice to hear about others experiences. |
24mm doesn't cover my wide-angle needs usually; if anything I would be more likely to throw a fish-eye in the bag. When used judiciously these can look more natural than rectilinear extreme wide-angles as they preserve the angular geometry better in the corners as observed by the photographer from the camera position. Plus you can run them through Fisheye-Hemi in PP to get results that look like a rotational panoramic shot :
Minolta MD FISH-EYE ROKKOR 16mm f/2.8 on SONY A7S, hand-held at 1/30s at ISO 400, and processed through Fisheye-Hemi (Bath Cathedral) _________________ Mark
SONY A7S, A7RII + dust-sealed modded Novoflex/Fotodiox/Rayqual MD-NEX adapters
Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
Minolta majority of all Rokkor SR/AR/MC/MD models made
Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
Schneider-Kreuznach PC-Super-Angulon 28mm/2.8 (SR mount)
Bronica PS 35/40/50/65/80/110/135/150/180/200/250mm |
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