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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2901 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:55 am Post subject: Minolta MD 35mm f/2.8, WOW! |
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caspert79 wrote:
Took out my Minolta MD 35mm f/2.8 for the first time (camera A7RII).
I quite like the bokeh for a 35mm.
I like sharpness, colours and contrast:
100% crop, shot wide open. Sharp enough for you?
I really love this lens. It is well built, fairly small and it can focus pretty close. It is razor sharp and contrasty already wide open and I love the colours. Prices are not as low as they used to be, usually around 100 dollars, but I think it is still a great bargain. |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3461 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:10 am Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
I love mine too. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10469 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Great!!!
I shall take mine and compare with the angulon 35/2 8 QBM that actually use with my 7RIII.
Your images remind me how good the MD is. |
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cbass
Joined: 27 Jul 2019 Posts: 436
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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cbass wrote:
Do you remember the aperture the leaf was shot at? |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2901 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
cbass wrote: |
Do you remember the aperture the leaf was shot at? |
No I'm not sure. But the lens its very sharp wide open (see last picture). |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2901 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
papasito wrote: |
Great!!!
I shall take mine and compare with the angulon 35/2 8 QBM that actually use with my 7RIII.
Your images remind me how good the MD is. |
That would be interesting to see. Here somebody tested how it holds up to the Sony Carl Zeiss FE 35mm 1:2.8 ZA: https://lens.ws/comparison-minolta-md-35mm-sony-35mm/ |
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 835
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
Nice examples. I got an MD W. Rokkor 35mm 2.8, don't know if it is the same one as the plain MD version. |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3751 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
... and here's someone else who did complare those two lenses on 43 MP FF (previous test mentioned above is on 24 MP FF):
http://www.artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/434-sony-a7rii-and-summilux-1-4-35mm-asph-sony-zeiss-fe-2-8-35mm-and-minolta-md-2-8-35mm
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you Stephan for your review.
A very impressive lens for sure
Congratulations caspert79.
Great lens, lovely images.
Bokeh is delightful too.
Tom |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2901 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:47 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Thank you Stephan ! |
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sergun
Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 280 Location: наша раша
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:39 am Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
I had the MD-III version on A7R and R2. I liked it but it was a bit "crooked" on one side. Now I have canon nfd 35/2.8 on A7r2. I didn't compare them directly, but it seems that Minolta has a slightly smoother transition of the blur zone and the Canon is sharper, somewhat more contrasting (colorful) and more vignetting. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/105161078@N06/
https://fotoload.ru/fotosets/6661/ |
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3071 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:38 am Post subject: |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
I have noted that the Minolta 35 2,8 is a little bit sharper than the nFD in the corners IF you take into account field curvature but the NFD has a flatter field. So flat or 3D subject might dictate your choice.
It also seemed to me that the nFD is a tad sharper at close distance.
However the nFD has much more distortion than the MD.
So two very good lenses with strengths (a lot) and weaknesses (a few). _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3751 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
I have noted that the Minolta 35 2,8 is a little bit sharper than the nFD in the corners IF you take into account field curvature but the NFD has a flatter field. So flat or 3D subject might dictate your choice.
It also seemed to me that the nFD is a tad sharper at close distance.
However the nFD has much more distortion than the MD.
So two very good lenses with strengths (a lot) and weaknesses (a few). |
Thank you for this information! I have nevere ever senn a Canon nFD 2.8/35mm lens for sale here in Switzerland - it seems everybody took either the nFD 2/35mm or the nFD 2.8/28mm, but not the nFD 2.8/35mm. In fact, in its "Canon Lens Book", Canon itself highly praises the nFD 2.8/35mm as a very capable lens.
There are a few similar constructions (apart from the Minolta MD 2.8/35mm), such as the Mamiya CS/E 2.8/35mm, the Yashica ML 2.8/35mm, and the Nikkor AiS 2.8/35mm. All theses lenses are really difficult to find here, and therefore I only own several MD 2.8/35mm and a ML 2.8/35mm (which is a very good as well - better than most 1960/1970s 2.8/35mm lenses - but not as good as the Minolta MD).
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
lumens pixel wrote: |
I have noted that the Minolta 35 2,8 is a little bit sharper than the nFD in the corners IF you take into account field curvature but the NFD has a flatter field. So flat or 3D subject might dictate your choice.
It also seemed to me that the nFD is a tad sharper at close distance.
However the nFD has much more distortion than the MD.
So two very good lenses with strengths (a lot) and weaknesses (a few). |
Thank you for this information! I have nevere ever senn a Canon nFD 2.8/35mm lens for sale here in Switzerland - it seems everybody took either the nFD 2/35mm or the nFD 2.8/28mm, but not the nFD 2.8/35mm. In fact, in its "Canon Lens Book", Canon itself highly praises the nFD 2.8/35mm as a very capable lens.
There are a few similar constructions (apart from the Minolta MD 2.8/35mm), such as the Mamiya CS/E 2.8/35mm, the Yashica ML 2.8/35mm, and the Nikkor AiS 2.8/35mm. All theses lenses are really difficult to find here, and therefore I only own several MD 2.8/35mm and a ML 2.8/35mm (which is a very good as well - better than most 1960/1970s 2.8/35mm lenses - but not as good as the Minolta MD).
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I read very good reports of the Mamiya CS and the Nikkor (Ais I guess).
Here in the Forum, there are some members who have written very good things about the Mamiya 35 CS.
I never used one of these lenses. |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Thank you for this information! I have nevere ever senn a Canon nFD 2.8/35mm lens for sale here in Switzerland - it seems everybody took either the nFD 2/35mm or the nFD 2.8/28mm, but not the nFD 2.8/35mm. In fact, in its "Canon Lens Book", Canon itself highly praises the nFD 2.8/35mm as a very capable lens.
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Too cheap for our Swiss friends I guess. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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Sciolist
Joined: 29 Mar 2017 Posts: 1445 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
Lovely shots. #2 is so joyous . |
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Ernst Dinkla
Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 378
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Ernst Dinkla wrote:
[quote="stevemark"]
lumens pixel wrote: |
There are a few similar constructions (apart from the Minolta MD 2.8/35mm), such as the Mamiya CS/E 2.8/35mm, the Yashica ML 2.8/35mm, and the Nikkor AiS 2.8/35mm. All theses lenses are really difficult to find here, and therefore I only own several MD 2.8/35mm and a ML 2.8/35mm (which is a very good as well - better than most 1960/1970s 2.8/35mm lenses - but not as good as the Minolta MD).
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Yes, I also noticed the similarity in optical design between the Minolta MD III 35mm 2.8 and the Mamiya-Sekor CS/E 35mm 2.8 some time ago. Although the MD III has a 5/5 and the CS/E a 6/6 element/group design. Their forerunners have some similarities too, the early MC versions and the SX. Here the Minolta has one element more, 7/6, versus 6/5 for the SX. WA's based on Tessar rear groups as I understand it. Rolleinar MC 35mm 2.8 should be like the M-S SX version.
Equivalent focal lengths of the Mamiya-Sekor C 645 WA lenses show some differences to the CS/E lenses (more elements in the C lenses anyway) and the similarities are sometimes more visible in a focal length a step further in the range. For example the CS 28mm more to the C 35mm than to the 45mm which should be its equivalent focal length. _________________ Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3751 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
[quote="Ernst Dinkla"]
stevemark wrote: |
lumens pixel wrote: |
There are a few similar constructions (apart from the Minolta MD 2.8/35mm), such as the Mamiya CS/E 2.8/35mm, the Yashica ML 2.8/35mm, and the Nikkor AiS 2.8/35mm. All theses lenses are really difficult to find here, and therefore I only own several MD 2.8/35mm and a ML 2.8/35mm (which is a very good as well - better than most 1960/1970s 2.8/35mm lenses - but not as good as the Minolta MD).
S |
Yes, I also noticed the similarity in optical design between the Minolta MD III 35mm 2.8 and the Mamiya-Sekor CS/E 35mm 2.8 some time ago. |
A rare Mamiya Sekor EF 2.8/35mm is on its way ... really courious to see how it compares to the Minolta MC/MD 2.8/35mm [5/5]!
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Ernst Dinkla
Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 378
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Ernst Dinkla wrote:
[quote="stevemark"]
Ernst Dinkla wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
lumens pixel wrote: |
There are a few similar constructions (apart from the Minolta MD 2.8/35mm), such as the Mamiya CS/E 2.8/35mm, the Yashica ML 2.8/35mm, and the Nikkor AiS 2.8/35mm. All theses lenses are really difficult to find here, and therefore I only own several MD 2.8/35mm and a ML 2.8/35mm (which is a very good as well - better than most 1960/1970s 2.8/35mm lenses - but not as good as the Minolta MD).
S |
Yes, I also noticed the similarity in optical design between the Minolta MD III 35mm 2.8 and the Mamiya-Sekor CS/E 35mm 2.8 some time ago. |
A rare Mamiya Sekor EF 2.8/35mm is on its way ... really courious to see how it compares to the Minolta MC/MD 2.8/35mm [5/5]!
S |
I hope you will like its quality as much as I do in my CS version. My favorite city-landscape lens. _________________ Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst
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laenee
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 369 Location: Shanghai
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doomed-forever
Joined: 09 Aug 2014 Posts: 239
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 9:16 am Post subject: |
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doomed-forever wrote:
I own two copies of the MD III 35/2.8.... it's pretty clear, whileas sadly the prices raised up during the past 2-3 years, sad but true...
This Lens is way capable, but if you want a 35/2.8 with even better corner to corner sharpness, and slightly better sharpness, look no further - the Canon nFD 35/2.8 simply kills it ! I own it, of course, also.
My fave 35's -into no order- are:
Minolta MD III 35/2.8
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Contax Zeiss 35/2.8 MM
Canon nFD 35/2.8
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1534 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Minolta MD 35mm f/2.8, WOW! |
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blotafton wrote:
One from last year. MDII
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