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papasito
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
aidaho wrote: |
sergun wrote: |
you compared it 55/1.9 ,55/1.7, 55/2.0 ? |
55/1.9 vs 55/1.7 is basically a tradeoff between sharpness and bokeh smootheness.
Both are great in my opinion. |
Which has the better sharpness and which the smoothest bokeh? |
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aidaho
Joined: 29 Apr 2018 Posts: 456 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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aidaho wrote:
papasito wrote: |
aidaho wrote: |
sergun wrote: |
you compared it 55/1.9 ,55/1.7, 55/2.0 ? |
55/1.9 vs 55/1.7 is basically a tradeoff between sharpness and bokeh smootheness.
Both are great in my opinion. |
Which has the better sharpness and which the smoothest bokeh? |
55/1.9 is a bit sharper and 55/1.7 is a bit smoother. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/curry-hexagon/ |
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sergun
Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 283 Location: наша раша
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 6:49 am Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
I recently got version 1.9 and now I have all three instances. I will try to test all three in the near future.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
sergun wrote: |
I recently got version 1.9 and now I have all three instances. I will try to test all three in the near future.
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There is also a Minolta PF 55mm f1.8
Tom |
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1469 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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sergun
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
My Auto 1, 8/55 (camera with the SR 1) rendering in the 1,9 way to me
Hard rendering like the st 1, 8/55 |
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sergun
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:44 am Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
Version 1.9 - 1.7-sigma45 / 2.8. Someone said that this is a compromise between sharpness / contrast/ smoothness. I agree with that.
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papasito
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Very clearly for my eyes.
Minolta and his green Long.CA.
This is the great con of the MC 1,2/58 to my taste.
Thanks for sharing. Very informative |
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sergun
Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 283 Location: наша раша
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
minolta mc pf 55mm f1.9
smile-3 by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/105161078@N06/
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2926 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Great picture! |
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Teemō
Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Posts: 586 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Teemō wrote:
Wow, sharpness, contrast and bokeh better than I expected from the older 55/1.9. I'll have to put it on my list! It even seems to have a smooth OOF for more challenging backgrounds. |
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aidaho
Joined: 29 Apr 2018 Posts: 456 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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aidaho wrote:
Teemō wrote: |
Wow, sharpness, contrast and bokeh better than I expected from the older 55/1.9. I'll have to put it on my list! It even seems to have a smooth OOF for more challenging backgrounds. |
I would argue this backwards: quite a number of 55s were significantly smoother than their 50mm successors.
Yes, 55/1.9 is one of the smoothest fifties there is, bowing only before its own ancestor, 55/1.7.
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sergun
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
Version 1.9 is clearly sharper than 1.7 and it gives a cooler tone.
minolta mc pf 55mm f1.9@f1.9
smile-5 by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr
smile-6 by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr
minolta mc pf 55mm f1.7@f1.7
smile-4 by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/105161078@N06/
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aidaho
Joined: 29 Apr 2018 Posts: 456 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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aidaho wrote:
sergun wrote: |
Version 1.9 is clearly sharper than 1.7 and it gives a cooler tone. |
True.
Yet 55/1.7 is still my personal favorite.
Has some feel/vibe to it, I'm struggling to replicate with other glass.
I believe this is thanks to just the right combination of spherical aberration, generally smooth transitions and some vague structure in the bokeh.
The only 50mm I've had, capable of competing with these 55s on bokeh quality, is Canon FDn 50/1.2 at F2.
None of the 50/1.4s I've had are close, be it stopped down or wide open.
Another honorable mention is Minolta 58/1.4.
Once you get past the first two uninspiring aperture stops, bokeh quality suddenly jumps straight to the top-tier at F2.8. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/curry-hexagon/ |
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sergun
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
Probably better to shoot static on 1.7 but not running children ) _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/105161078@N06/
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sergun
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2929 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
great capture! _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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bmsmith67
Joined: 15 Mar 2022 Posts: 4 Location: Florida, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:02 am Post subject: |
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bmsmith67 wrote:
The 55/1.9 was an oddball lens that was only sold in the North American (I believe) market with the SRT100, never in the catalogs on its own. It reputably does not have the full Minolta coating treatment.
The 55/1.7 was standard for several Minolta bodies from 1966 until 1973, and surely has different coatings and possibly optical "tweaks" (ala Rokkor 58/1.4) throughout its tenure. So one must be careful with blanket observations regarding the 55/1.7.
Plus of course the 50ish year-old age of any sample we acquire... |
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RokkorDoctor
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 Posts: 1268 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:24 am Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
bmsmith67 wrote: |
The 55/1.9 was an oddball lens that was only sold in the North American (I believe) market with the SRT100, never in the catalogs on its own. It reputably does not have the full Minolta coating treatment. |
Silver aperture ring, Celtic-style rubber focus grip, distance scale in feet only. As you say, an oddball finish for a Minolta lens. _________________ Mark
SONY A7S, A7RII + dust-sealed modded Novoflex/Fotodiox/Rayqual MD-NEX adapters
Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
Minolta majority of all Rokkor SR/AR/MC/MD models made
Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
Schneider-Kreuznach PC-Super-Angulon 28mm/2.8 (SR mount)
Bronica PS 35/40/50/65/80/110/135/150/180/200/250mm |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2926 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:52 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
I have the Rokkor PF 55mm f/2, it's one of my favorite standard lenses. Best thing is, I got it for free.
RokkorPF552386 by devoscasper, on Flickr
RokkorPF55f2382 by devoscasper, on Flickr |
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