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Minolta MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2020 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aidaho wrote:
sergun wrote:

you compared it 55/1.9 ,55/1.7, 55/2.0 ?

55/1.9 vs 55/1.7 is basically a tradeoff between sharpness and bokeh smootheness.
Both are great in my opinion.


Which has the better sharpness and which the smoothest bokeh?


PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2020 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

papasito wrote:
aidaho wrote:
sergun wrote:

you compared it 55/1.9 ,55/1.7, 55/2.0 ?

55/1.9 vs 55/1.7 is basically a tradeoff between sharpness and bokeh smootheness.
Both are great in my opinion.


Which has the better sharpness and which the smoothest bokeh?

55/1.9 is a bit sharper and 55/1.7 is a bit smoother.


PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently got version 1.9 and now I have all three instances. I will try to test all three in the near future.


PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sergun wrote:
I recently got version 1.9 and now I have all three instances. I will try to test all three in the near future.


There is also a Minolta PF 55mm f1.8
Smile
Tom


PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2020 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is the sample at 5.6

https://scontent.fiev21-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/95601888_2956563897764261_5319261612492718080_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=e007fa&_nc_oc=AQmOsRLpPZngOSiUyw1ejKLzUcXDL6TgbBkpaDu8h677uy8WQW3BDmbDR7IO7n2mAHs&_nc_ht=scontent.fiev21-2.fna&oh=469d63358eb5b30449a1a13e5b0cb83f&oe=5EDB4E4C


PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V1.9@1.9
DSC01112-9 by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr


PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Auto 1, 8/55 (camera with the SR 1) rendering in the 1,9 way to me

Hard rendering like the st 1, 8/55


PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Version 1.9 - 1.7-sigma45 / 2.8. Someone said that this is a compromise between sharpness / contrast/ smoothness. I agree with that.


PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very clearly for my eyes.

Minolta and his green Long.CA.

This is the great con of the MC 1,2/58 to my taste.

Thanks for sharing. Very informative


PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

minolta mc pf 55mm f1.9
smile-3 by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr


PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sergun wrote:
minolta mc pf 55mm f1.9
smile-3 by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr


Great picture!


PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, sharpness, contrast and bokeh better than I expected from the older 55/1.9. I'll have to put it on my list! It even seems to have a smooth OOF for more challenging backgrounds.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teemō wrote:
Wow, sharpness, contrast and bokeh better than I expected from the older 55/1.9. I'll have to put it on my list! It even seems to have a smooth OOF for more challenging backgrounds.

I would argue this backwards: quite a number of 55s were significantly smoother than their 50mm successors.

Yes, 55/1.9 is one of the smoothest fifties there is, bowing only before its own ancestor, 55/1.7.









PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Version 1.9 is clearly sharper than 1.7 and it gives a cooler tone.

minolta mc pf 55mm f1.9@f1.9
smile-5 by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr
smile-6 by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr


minolta mc pf 55mm f1.7@f1.7
smile-4 by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr


PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sergun wrote:
Version 1.9 is clearly sharper than 1.7 and it gives a cooler tone.

True.

Yet 55/1.7 is still my personal favorite.
Has some feel/vibe to it, I'm struggling to replicate with other glass.
I believe this is thanks to just the right combination of spherical aberration, generally smooth transitions and some vague structure in the bokeh.






The only 50mm I've had, capable of competing with these 55s on bokeh quality, is Canon FDn 50/1.2 at F2.
None of the 50/1.4s I've had are close, be it stopped down or wide open.

Another honorable mention is Minolta 58/1.4.
Once you get past the first two uninspiring aperture stops, bokeh quality suddenly jumps straight to the top-tier at F2.8.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably better to shoot static on 1.7 but not running children )


PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Настроение ) by Сергей Пашнин, on Flickr


PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like 1 great capture!


PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 55/1.9 was an oddball lens that was only sold in the North American (I believe) market with the SRT100, never in the catalogs on its own. It reputably does not have the full Minolta coating treatment.
The 55/1.7 was standard for several Minolta bodies from 1966 until 1973, and surely has different coatings and possibly optical "tweaks" (ala Rokkor 58/1.4) throughout its tenure. So one must be careful with blanket observations regarding the 55/1.7.
Plus of course the 50ish year-old age of any sample we acquire...


PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bmsmith67 wrote:
The 55/1.9 was an oddball lens that was only sold in the North American (I believe) market with the SRT100, never in the catalogs on its own. It reputably does not have the full Minolta coating treatment.


Silver aperture ring, Celtic-style rubber focus grip, distance scale in feet only. As you say, an oddball finish for a Minolta lens.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Rokkor PF 55mm f/2, it's one of my favorite standard lenses. Best thing is, I got it for free.

RokkorPF552386 by devoscasper, on Flickr

RokkorPF55f2382 by devoscasper, on Flickr