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Minolta MC 300mm f4.5 worth a try?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:29 pm    Post subject: Minolta MC 300mm f4.5 worth a try? Reply with quote

Hi guys!

I'm missing my Nikkor Ai 300mm f4.5 since I sold it and our local dealer has a 300mm f4.5 Minolta MC Rokkor for sale at a price of 30!

How does the Minolta compare to the Nikkor?

As my Samsung is in for service for the next three weeks, I need to rely on your thoughs! Wink

Cheers,

Karhallarn


PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rokkor lenses are as good of the quality as nikkors, take the lens you won't regret it. you could always resell it


PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had bunch of Nikon and Minolta both, Nikon has more stable , better quality in general , Minolta made some fantastic lenses , but not all excellent. For 30 EUR you not risk much I think lens will be above all lenses what you can get for this sum and in lucky case this will be good as your Nikkor.


PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's supposed to be a sharp lens, but I haven't tried one personally. For that price, if it's in good shape I'd grab it. you can always resell it if it dosen't meet your needs.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought it!

It's in nearly mint condition apart from some small fungus on one of the inner frontal lenses! Maybe I can disassemble and clean it!

Mechanically this lens is a dream!

I'm looking forward to testing this lens out, sadly my NX11 was sent in for repairs...

I'm posting pictures as soon as I have my camera back!


PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats.
I have that lens too.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My camera is back (without fixes...).

So here are some samples with the Minolta MC 300mm!





PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it's not a simple question in the topic even for Minolta fans - review of MC-I Minolta 300mm F/4.5 is here

UPD: MC-I Rokkor vs MD-III 300mm 1:4.5 head-to-head comparison


PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tf wrote:
I believe it's not a simple question in the topic even for Minolta fans - review of MC-I Minolta 300mm F/4.5 is here

UPD: MC-I Rokkor vs MD-III 300mm 1:4.5 head-to-head comparison


Thank you for these - as usually! - careful made comparisons.

I have a Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/300mm on my way; this was the first 4.5/300mm with SR bayonet. It is a [4/3] construction, much simpled than the MC 4.5/300mm, and without LD glass of course (i suspect the MC 4.5/300 to have a sort of LD glass, since there are some remarks about "new glass" in the contemprorary German Minolta literature). The MD 4.5/300mm (the IF lens) was said to have an new prorietary Minolta LD glass as well. I'm not sure if it was a LD glass (abbe number around 70) or even an AD/ED/ULD glass (abbe number aroud 80). The Minolta MD 4.5/300 IF has a s little CAs as the Nikkor AiS 4.5/300mm ED-IF.

Stephan


PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemark wrote:

I have a Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/300mm on my way; this was the first 4.5/300mm with SR bayonet. It is a [4/3] construction, much simpled than the MC 4.5/300mm, and without LD glass of course (i suspect the MC 4.5/300 to have a sort of LD glass, since there are some remarks about "new glass" in the contemprorary German Minolta literature). The MD 4.5/300mm (the IF lens) was said to have an new prorietary Minolta LD glass as well. I'm not sure if it was a LD glass (abbe number around 70) or even an AD/ED/ULD glass (abbe number aroud 80). The Minolta MD 4.5/300 IF has a s little CAs as the Nikkor AiS 4.5/300mm ED-IF.

Stephan


Thank you for the information Stephan,
by the way, did you have experience with 300/5.6 versions? I've heard an opinion that some 300/5.6 version /don't know what design was mentioned exactly/ is very sharp and even may be sharper than 4.5 sisters, but I still didn't get this lens and not sure that get it soon


PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tf wrote:
stevemark wrote:

I have a Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/300mm on my way; this was the first 4.5/300mm with SR bayonet. It is a [4/3] construction, much simpled than the MC 4.5/300mm, and without LD glass of course (i suspect the MC 4.5/300 to have a sort of LD glass, since there are some remarks about "new glass" in the contemprorary German Minolta literature). The MD 4.5/300mm (the IF lens) was said to have an new prorietary Minolta LD glass as well. I'm not sure if it was a LD glass (abbe number around 70) or even an AD/ED/ULD glass (abbe number aroud 80). The Minolta MD 4.5/300 IF has a s little CAs as the Nikkor AiS 4.5/300mm ED-IF.

Stephan


Thank you for the information Stephan,
by the way, did you have experience with 300/5.6 versions? I've heard an opinion that some 300/5.6 version /don't know what design was mentioned exactly/ is very sharp and even may be sharper than 4.5 sisters, but I still didn't get this lens and not sure that get it soon


I do own all the three different Minolta 5.6/300mm lenses, namely the Rokkor QD 5.6/300mm [4/4], the Tele Rokkor PD 5.6/300mm [5/5], and the MD Tele Rokkor 5.6/300mm [also 5/5]. Due to difficulties with air turbulences and haze, i have never pubished the corresponding test results. I may try to re-test them as soon as possible, when the air is calm and clean ...


PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got a nearly pristine Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/30cm - which means that i can compare most Minolta SR 300mm lenses now:

- Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/30cm
- MC I Tele Rokkor HF 4.5/300mm
- MC II Tele Rokkor HF 4.5/300mm
- MC X Tele Rokkor HF 4.5/300mm
- MD-II Tele Rokkor 4.5/300mm (IF)

- Tele Rokkor QD 5.6/30cm
- MC X Tele Rokkor PE 5.6/300mm
- MD-II Tele Rokkor 5.6/300mm

Results will follow tomorrow.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemark wrote:
I just got a nearly pristine Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/30cm - which means that i can compare most Minolta SR 300mm lenses now


Thank you for this in advance


PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a first overview, with preliminary results including a few famous Canon, Nikon, Oly and Pentax lenses.

24MP FF, 100% crops from the extreme corners.

Stephan

Most interesting in my opinion:

1) Nikkor 4.5/300mm IF-ED has as much lateral CAs as the Minolta MD-II 4.5/300mm IF, the Olympus OM 4.5/300mm or the Pentax M* 4/300mm ED (three large ED lenses!).

2) The oldest Minolta lenses in this thest (QD 4.5/300 and QD 5.6/300) have less CAs than their later counterparts, but also less resolution wide open

3) By far the best lens is Canons venerable FL-F 5.6/300mm (1968): It is the first "consumer" lens with artificial fluorite elements ever produced; the later FL-F/FD-F 2.8/300mm has more CAs.


I have re-run the test a second time, including a few more lenses such as the Canon FD-F 2.8/300, the Minolta AF 2.8/300, and a few Zooms including the nFD 5.6/100-300 mm L. Results will follow on artaphot.ch


PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stevemark, nice! Shot with Sony FF sensor?


PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blazer0ne wrote:
Stevemark, nice! Shot with Sony FF sensor?


Yes, as usual with 24 MP FF A7II!

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