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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:31 pm Post subject: Meyer Primagon 35 |
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Marek wrote:
I won Primagon 35 together with very nice looking Telemegor 180 for less than €60. I polished both already very preserved looking lens twice, so that Primagon looks brand new now, including untouched optics. Telemegor has some minor flanks and scratches that seems to be uncleanable with my methods.
I sold Telemegor 180 the very same day with a pretty good profit, as there's a demand for them in my country after I've posted that butterfly series of shots made with
Decided to keep Primagon 35 though, for being just too lovely and also a decent performer (although I'm still getting used to its "weird" mm range).
After browsing history of this forums, the lens seems to be a personal darling of many users or even valued as best MF 35mm ever, so I'm quite curious. Anyway, I need something beween fisheye and cheap set lens to shoot some butterfly biotopes and so on. _________________ Angry young man !
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:44 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I confess I love the Primagon as well. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Beautiful shot.
I own most of the German 35mms of that era:
Voigtlander Skoparex 3.4/35
Zeiss Opton Biogon 2.8/35
Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.8/35
Schneider Curtagon 2.8/35
Meyer Primagon 4.5/35
The Primagon is as good as any of them, it is perhaps my favourite as it has the nicest character. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
The Primagon is as good as any of them, it is perhaps my favourite as it has the nicest character. |
Hello, Mr. Sonnar By saying so you mean it tend to draw like other Meyers in bokeh attempts or nicest character of relatively conventional photos (panoramas, landscapes) in general?
It's my best condition Meyer lens overall, that should be good enough reason to keep this one. _________________ Angry young man !
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:42 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Both the bokeh and other characteristics - the colours particularly. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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serkol
Joined: 26 Aug 2012 Posts: 890 Location: Belarus
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:22 am Post subject: |
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serkol wrote:
Now I also have Primagon. While only two photos. Nice lens!
Click to enlarge
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Hard to tell that this is taken at f4.5 but it is.
Doesn't show off the Primagon as a different rendering lens from many others, but it does show that it has talent
OH
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Thorn Berry
Joined: 18 Mar 2015 Posts: 6 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Thorn Berry wrote:
Took this today with a Primagon wide open at 4.5
Trying to get bokeh out of it.
Yes, I know this is not a lens for bokeh but it was worth a try.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
The colour is lovely.
Here are a couple from this afternoon to try to show bokeh. It is in shadow but it does give some idea.
OH
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Some better attempts at bokeh from this lens - from this morning
OH
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serkol
Joined: 26 Aug 2012 Posts: 890 Location: Belarus
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:23 am Post subject: |
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serkol wrote:
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
Excellent бабушка ! _________________ Angry young man !
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Serkol, your pictures shown here are excellent! _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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Piktuolis
Joined: 11 Dec 2012 Posts: 20 Location: Vilnius
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Piktuolis wrote:
This morning, looking for Orestegon in my bag, I saw my fellow Primagon. Even better
Europe day in Vilnius. Pentax K20D, f/4.5, resized, levels adjusted.
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serkol
Joined: 26 Aug 2012 Posts: 890 Location: Belarus
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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serkol wrote:
Marek, tb_a, thank you!
Marek, especially for you
What do you think about Primagon 35/4.5 vs Helioplan 40/4.5?
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
She should join some casting to play some fairy tale granny or so. No wizard or even witch, just an old, wise, learned granny. Kind of the woman that tells family youngsters what to do
Anyway, your phohos has typical Slavic aspect in many elements I partly recognize from my country (countryside, housing, dressing etc.)
I sold Helioplan before I tested the lens properly. I got a nice offer so I took it off, nothing more, nothing less. Now I use only Primagon for countryside photos. Performs enough for me. But I plan to re-gain Helioplan till 2020 _________________ Angry young man !
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Piktuolis,
I have already mentioned it before, but nobody reacted to my question.
As I have the same camera as you (K20D) it always comes to my mind that it produces somehow slightly different colors compared to my other cameras. When I look at your pictures I have somehow the same feeling. However, I haven't used mine recently. Which color settings are you using in your camera? Did you somehow reduce the intensity of the colors?
I still had no time to play around to find it out myself. Maybe it's the different sensor produced by Samsung in this Pentax model. It may also be that I am getting somehow crazy and it's all only my personal imagination... _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here).
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
tb_a wrote: |
Marek,
I have already mentioned it before, but nobody reacted to my question.
As I have the same camera as you (K20D) it always comes to my mind that it produces somehow slightly different colors compared to my other cameras. When I look at your pictures I have somehow the same feeling. However, I haven't used mine recently. Which color settings are you using in your camera? Did you somehow reduce the intensity of the colors?
I still had no time to play around to find it out myself. Maybe it's the different sensor produced by Samsung in this Pentax model. It may also be that I am getting somehow crazy and it's all only my personal imagination... |
Hi, wasn't me, as I have EOS 60d.
Anyway, to the pictures.
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:59 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Marek wrote: |
Hi, wasn't me, as I have EOS 60d.
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Ups, sorry for that. I confused you with Piktuolis.
I will amend my posting accordingly. Thanks for understanding. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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Humulus
Joined: 23 Sep 2014 Posts: 130 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Humulus wrote:
Some nice grasslands on #4 and #5 |
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serkol
Joined: 26 Aug 2012 Posts: 890 Location: Belarus
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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serkol wrote:
Yes, Marek, she is archetypal person
Nice shoots, especially №1
Some more from today
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Piktuolis
Joined: 11 Dec 2012 Posts: 20 Location: Vilnius
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Piktuolis wrote:
tb_a wrote: |
Piktuolis,
I have already mentioned it before, but nobody reacted to my question.
As I have the same camera as you (K20D) it always comes to my mind that it produces somehow slightly different colors compared to my other cameras. When I look at your pictures I have somehow the same feeling. However, I haven't used mine recently. Which color settings are you using in your camera? Did you somehow reduce the intensity of the colors?
I still had no time to play around to find it out myself. Maybe it's the different sensor produced by Samsung in this Pentax model. It may also be that I am getting somehow crazy and it's all only my personal imagination... |
Sorry for taking so long.
I checked camera settings and it's on "normal", which means colors shouldn't be affected in camera, only minor sharpness decrease. I shoot raw and later in Photoshop adjust exposure, contrast etc. but not the colors. In case with Primoplan, I changed white balance because shooting conditions (shade under the trees, evening sun, the grass and bushes around) confused the camera and I really didn't like the result.
As for Canon - I don't have much experience with this brand, but my colleagues who use photo cameras for filming said Canon has really strange colors. |
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Piktuolis wrote: |
I checked camera settings and it's on "normal", which means colors shouldn't be affected in camera, only minor sharpness decrease. I shoot raw and later in Photoshop adjust exposure, contrast etc. but not the colors. In case with Primoplan, I changed white balance because shooting conditions (shade under the trees, evening sun, the grass and bushes around) confused the camera and I really didn't like the result.
As for Canon - I don't have much experience with this brand, but my colleagues who use photo cameras for filming said Canon has really strange colors. |
Thanks for your comment. So maybe it's either my brain or the Samsung sensor.
I do not have any experience with Canon either. I compare the colors of the K20D with my other cameras from Sony, Panasonic and Ricoh which seem to have more similar coloring compared to the Pentax. That was the reason why I was asking you about the color settings. So it seems to be that actually the Samsung sensor in the K20D is somehow the cause of the very minor, but at least for me visible difference. That came automatically into my mind when I looked at your pictures as I didn't look to my own pictures from the same camera for a longer time. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
A Sunday outing today and I took the Meyer Primagon.
When I have a day out I like to take only a single lens and work with its focal length.
Here are some shots from a very warm summer day.
Tom
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:54 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
_________________ Klaus - Admin
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