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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: Meyer Optik Orestor 100/2.8 - Worth It? |
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Laurence wrote:
It looks like the Meyer-Optik 100 Oreston could be a good lens. Don't know much about the Orestor, but it might be fund to compare to the Trioplan. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Laurence, the lens is surely worthy, however two caveats:
1) The seller is, well, discussed; some say they made great bargains from him, others say they were given items damaged. Up to you to decide what to do.
2) I would remove the link: this is an open forum and it may attract unwanted competitors. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
That seller seems to have a plentiful supply of crumbly biscuits which he sprinkles every lens with. You'd think he'd have noticed his pics show every bit of dust and it might be worth his while to clean the items before photographing them, but I suppose he just can't be bothered. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Farside wrote: |
That seller seems to have a plentiful supply of crumbly biscuits which he sprinkles every lens with. You'd think he'd have noticed his pics show every bit of dust and it might be worth his while to clean the items before photographing them, but I suppose he just can't be bothered. |
Yes, between that "dirt problem" and what Orio indicates, I'm up in the air about this.
And, of course, all his auctions are that the item is "optically perfect" which doesn't tell me much about the other attributes of the lens. And that would mean that if the lens was "optically perfect" but had a stuck aperture blades, then I would be out of luck, since he didn't mention the aperture blades specifically...
I'll just follow along and see... Not sure about taking a chance yet. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Maxim
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 284 Location: Poland 52°N 17°E
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Maxim wrote:
Orestor is different from Trioplan. Trioplan is a old triplet glass scheme (3 elements in 3 groups). Orestor 100/2.8 is a father of Pentacon 100/2.8 (5 elements in 4 groups). Trioplan isn't a very good lens for general use, but has specific personality I think that's Orestor is a good lens, like Pentacon. If you find example is in good condition, it's could be good choice.
Interesting page about Meyer - Optik lenses:
http://home.arcor.de/cpqrst3/ _________________ Regards,
Hubert
E-300 + ZD 14-42 + Tessar 5cm/3.5 + Mamiya 55/1.4 + Primoplan V 58/1.9 + Biotar 5.8cm/2 + MC Helios 44M-6 58/2 + Trioplan 100/2.8 + Trioplan V 100/2.8 + "Olympia" Sonnar 180/2.8 + ЮПИТЕР-6 180/2.8 + Telemegor 400/5.5
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I have at least 5 copies if this say something... quality is equal level like Nikkor 85mm f1.8!
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/pentacon/pentacon_100mm_f2_8/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/meyer/meyer-optik-orestor-100mm/ _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
You deleted the link before I saw this, but I knew instantly to whom you are referring. I think he stores his stuff on a construction site.
He's fine for simple things like lens caps, but I will never buy another lens or a camera from him, Laurence. I bought a Soligor 4/200 that was "mechanically and optically perfect" but sadly I didn't realise I needed to understand that if he didn't say the aperture was stopping down correctly then it wasn't! It was only cheap and the return postage was more than the purchase cost so I kept it, but I was quite miffed. Another problem is that he sells so much stuff he doesn't have time for communications and you're unlikely to get any replies to emails. If you see a good bargain and you're ready to risk your money then go for it, but as they say, "You have been warned!" _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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hacksawbob
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1293 Location: LANCS UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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hacksawbob wrote:
Yes I was looking at this didn't notice the seller so checked again it is out old friend Mr. Rock He is the only person I have had a problem with on ebay (he gave me my 1 bad feedback) this is after he sent me this as mechanically and optically perfect
He agreed to refund but none came after I returned the lens, 2 weeks later I chased him through paypal and eventually they recovered the funds from his account.
He plays a numbers game My bad feedback will hang around my account for a long time, the bad I left for him has long since dropped off the bottom of his list as he is a volume seller. here is his feedback for me
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BEWARE SELLERS-LIES FROM WORST COMMS BUYER-BANNED FROM ALL MY AUCTIONS-AVOID!!!! |
HE never ONCE replied to my repeated requests for a refund after I returned the lens.
It is not just a case of buying a cheap lens with this guy if the lens turns out to be bad (he really doesn't know optics or is a fraud) and you try to get your money back you will end up screwing up your feedback. Factor THAT into the price. Call it the ROCK-TAX! _________________ LENS LIST |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10469 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
We have a sticky post "Nasty sellers" at Marketplace
It would be nice that the first post is just a list of names
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Only bought a lens cap of him which was fine apart from very slow shipping speed and extortionate postage... _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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Riku
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1059 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Riku wrote:
The lens is worth it, but this seller is not |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Thank you VERY much, all!
My money is valuable, and I don't have a large budget for photography. I will not take the chance. There will be many other opportunities out there, that's for sure! _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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