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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mark wrote:
Interesting news, but will they sell glass using just the name (like Cosina Voigtlander), or resurrect older designs (lke Lomography)? One more thing to watch on this year's Photokina!


The lens is made in Germany, it should be in the Meyer Goerlitz spirit - whatever that means.
I suppose it to be a full manual ~70-90mm lens, image quality in terms of MTF bellow Canon EF 85 lenses.
75mm focal length would be a classic focal lenght for portrait work for 24x36mm, and not too long on 1.5/1.6 crop cameras too.
Further I think a aluminium or chrome look would be useful for marketing.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I suggest Zebra style, with lots of deep knurling. Also knobs. Deep shiny enamel.
And a tapered lens hood. With Zebra stripes.
A special short register version so it doesn't look silly on a Sony.
Man, I should be in charge of marketing.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
luisalegria wrote:
...A special short register version so it doesn't look silly on a Sony.
Man, I should be in charge of marketing.


Yes, this is quite a good idea - but I don´t love the Zebra thing Smile


PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
luisalegria wrote:
I suggest Zebra style, with lots of deep knurling. Also knobs. Deep shiny enamel.
And a tapered lens hood. With Zebra stripes.
A special short register version so it doesn't look silly on a Sony.
Man, I should be in charge of marketing.


Guess they did their homework as the market is very competitive and who wants to generate huge
losses in their books. That company is not that large and they had quite some losses a while ago,
so I assume they are rather careful in their decision making process Wink


PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
peterqd wrote:
luisalegria wrote:
They can reissue the Domiplan !

Smile With the blades pre-glued to avoid the wait for them to stick?


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
luisalegria wrote:
I suggest Zebra style, with lots of deep knurling. Also knobs. Deep shiny enamel.
And a tapered lens hood. With Zebra stripes.
A special short register version so it doesn't look silly on a Sony.
Man, I should be in charge of marketing.


best looking lens ever!



and its little brother



PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You haven't seem many lenses Rick, right? Laughing Laughing Laughing


PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
You haven't seem many lenses Rick, right? Laughing Laughing Laughing


I have seen quite a lot actually Very Happy
Maybe I've just some weird "liking"


PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting, I look forward to seeing what they release.


PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
(quote)
Hallo Herr Dr. Schmitt,
wir werden ein 85 mm mit den Anschlüssen Canon, Nikon und M42 auf den Markt bringen.
(unqote)

So far their announcement to me. Sounds good to me....


PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
(quote)
Hallo Herr Dr. Schmitt,
wir werden ein 85 mm mit den Anschlüssen Canon, Nikon und M42 auf den Markt bringen.
(unqote)

So far their announcement to me. Sounds good to me....

It is great that they offer it in M42 mount which can be adapted to many film cameras. I hope they will makes a good alternative lens to the Samyang and Zeiss 1.4/85. If it is an F2 lens, it should be better than the one made by Mitakon.


PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Calvin, I expect it to be fast, but maybe not that fast, f1.8 or f2 possibly which certainly is enough for portrait photography.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
Calvin, I expect it to be fast, but maybe not that fast, f1.8 or f2 possibly which certainly is enough for portrait photography.

I think so. There is a niche market on manual 75/85 SLR lenses with moderate aperture. It need not to be fast but it should have some characters to made it standout of other current MF/AF lenses.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I suppose (fear) that its main character will be the housing and naming.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Something like a Jupiter (sonnar) 9 would be nice . With modern coating to reduce the flare and with compactness to be an alternative to the. too big Samyang. Ich kaufe sofort !


PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Now more information is avialable - on another website.
Wonder why they don´t post it on the Meyer Goerlitz website.

http://de.globell.com/Rueckkehr-von-Meyer-Optik-Goerlitz-Objektive-Made-in-Germany-mit-weltweiter-Premiere-auf-der-Photoki_detail_939_2227.html
I found no English counterpart of this site.

They want to show two new lenses:
Meyer Optik Görlitz 1,4/85 mm Somnium - with round bokeh, 999 Euro
Meyer Optik Görlitz 1,8/80 mm Figmentum - with higher sharpness (but not too sharp for portrait work) and smoother bokeh, 849 Euro


PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow, a sleep-lens (Somnium) and an unreal-lens (Figmentum) - Latin often has multiple meanings Wink

Kidding aside, that sounds quite interesting, although the set price is a rather steep one.
Will be interesting to see some samples of both...


PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
They are going to call them the Somnium and the Figmentum ?

This is either silly or brilliant, I'm not sure which.

If they bothered to revive the Meyer brand why not use old Meyer trademarks ?
Plasmat
Primoplan
Helioplan
or heck, Trioplan
There's got to be three of something in there.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
luisalegria wrote:
They are going to call them the Somnium and the Figmentum ?

This is either silly or brilliant, I'm not sure which.

If they bothered to revive the Meyer brand why not use old Meyer trademarks ?
Plasmat
Primoplan
Helioplan
or heck, Trioplan
There's got to be three of something in there.


Plasmatioplan?
Helioprim?
Trioplasmat?

There would be many easily recognizable names... Twisted Evil

Guess they were infected by Zeiss' new naming conventions, err "marketing speak"


PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
With such price, I would rather buy an old Primoplan 75. Cool


PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You hit the nail on the head Calvin!


PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Meyer Optik Görlitz 1,4/85 Somnium seems to swirl, after first bokeh images I could see.
I wait for more info, it seems a bit like it gives sometimes bubbles. I don´t know wheter it was background of forground bokeh :-/


PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
with these prices, they cannot be made in Germany

maybe assembled, but need parts from elsewhere


PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
56 DIN wrote:
with these prices, they cannot be made in Germany

maybe assembled, but need parts from elsewhere


I think parts from elsewhere, and assembly and quality control in Germany would not be that bad.
But main thing: It should have a quality like "Made in Germany" Smile
So not like Samyang products with real infinity somwhere between 1 meter and hard infinity stop Smile


PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
calvin83 wrote:
With such price, I would rather buy an old Primoplan 75. Cool


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