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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
Lots of little bits of money can be spent acquiring cheap lenses when just a little more can get you a very good lens.
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nukemall
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Location: Blagoveschensk, Russia
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nukemall wrote:
This 28/2.8 is a first lens manufactured by Samyang at the end of 1970s.
It's always bad and any who try to use it "considered a defect", like with other early Samyang lenses(35/2.8, 135/2. .
This lenses selled under over the 9000 "garbage" trademarks like "Eagle", "Underground" etc etc, also as "Rokinon", "Hanimex", "Sears" and "Revuenon".
Other worst lenses manufactured by Samyang:
"Chinon" 35/2.8 (ordered by Chinon USA)
Real japanese Chinon 35/2.8, see "Japan" on the nameplate ring:
Other 28/2.8(late model)
35/2.8
And worser 135/2.8 ever produced:
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Briefly: if you see on the old lens "Made in Korea" - throw it away. Samyang start to manufacture good lenses at 2009 with 85/1.4, any earlier is crap.
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Excalibur
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Excalibur wrote:
It always amazes me when you pick up a mint lens made in the 70's/80s and get bad results, e.g. Osawa 28mm /f2.8 as the formula for the lens elements were well known.....so it's either crap glass used or the elements were badly made or incorrect assembly in the factory or combo of all. In mass production you'd think they would get it right and any 28mm lens should be at least decent.
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Pancolart
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Location: Slovenia, EU
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Pancolart wrote:
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This 28/2.8 is a first lens manufactured by Samyang at the end of 1970s.
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Valuable info, thanks.
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The only Korean made old lens that is any good is the common 2.8/135, lots of people have had good copies, myself included. The 28s and 35s are very common and crap.
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Gerald
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Gerald wrote:
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| Briefly: if you see on the old lens "Made in Korea" - throw it away. Samyang start to manufacture good lenses at 2009 with 85/1.4, any earlier is crap. |
Erwin Puts likes to say that "to get a good idea of how a lens performs we need to take at least 500 pictures."
Well, 5 pictures are enough for some lenses. 
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
| Gerald wrote: |
| nukemall wrote: |
| Briefly: if you see on the old lens "Made in Korea" - throw it away. Samyang start to manufacture good lenses at 2009 with 85/1.4, any earlier is crap. |
Erwin Puts likes to say that "to get a good idea of how a lens performs we need to take at least 500 pictures."
Well, 5 pictures are enough for some lenses. |
Puts was talking about high-end lenses so your comment is unwarranted in this case.
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jamaeolus
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Location: Eugene
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jamaeolus wrote:
I got a hanimex 135 with a "lot" of other camera junk I was interested in. The mount (exakta) was bent and it rattled when I picked it up.so I thought I'll dismantle it to see what is inside. Pure crap. PVC tubes, slot in inner tube as helical. plastic everything except for a few (very damn few) screws. My guess is the weight of the lens bent the mounting plate. Amazingly shoddy. The Yashica DSB 50 1.9 on the broken ML 1000 though? Very nice indeed.
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philslizzy
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philslizzy wrote:
Your Minolta/Nikon adapter has got a lens in it. That reduces image quality somewhat at full aperture, making an already bad lens worse. I use a silmilar adapter but I use Rokkors on my D3200, 2 stops down they are fine but yours....
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