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 Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:14 am Post subject: Toyo 28-80 f/3.5 & Makinon 35-105 f/3.5 |
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55 wrote:
Two apparent Makina made lenses: Toyo 28-80mm f/3.5 and Makinon 35-105m f/3.5.
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I've seen these labelled as Focal, Hanimex, J.C. Penney, Makinon, Promaster, Telesor and Toyo. The specifications sound ordinary, but the lenses are notable for having their zoom rings ahead of their focus rings and therefore having non rotating front elements and accessory threads.
Theses lenses are nothing special optically, but I think they deserve recognition for advancing beyond the (accursed!) rotating filter thread found on most zoom lenses from the 1970s - 80s. |
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Phalbert
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Phalbert wrote:
This one looks seriously a lot like a re-badged Yashinon.
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Pancolart wrote:
Nice finds there, quite an underdog company Makina.
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D1N0 wrote:
This is my copy of the 200mm 1:3.3 in Prinzflex guise
 Prinzflex Auto MC 1:3.3 200mm by The lens profile, on Flickr
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Phalbert
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| Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Toyo 28-80 f/3.5 & Makinon 35-105 f/3.5 |
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Phalbert wrote:
| 55 wrote: |
Two apparent Makina made lenses: Toyo 28-80mm f/3.5 and Makinon 35-105m f/3.5.
I've seen these labelled as Focal, Hanimex, J.C. Penney, Makinon, Promaster, Telesor and Toyo. The specifications sound ordinary, but the lenses are notable for having their zoom rings ahead of their focus rings and therefore having non rotating front elements and accessory threads.
Theses lenses are nothing special optically, but I think they deserve recognition for advancing beyond the (accursed!) rotating filter thread found on most zoom lenses from the 1970s - 80s. |
I find the constant f3,5 for the 28-80 interesting. Should I start looking for one ?  Sure, It's Christmas time.
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My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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Pancolart
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Pancolart wrote:
I'd suggest trying any of extreme zooms:
3.3-4.5/24-50mm
3.3-3.8/24-35mm
2.8/35-70mm
2.8-4.5/28-80mm
Not due stellar performance but fun. Flares, distortions, macro as soft focus effect.
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55
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| Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Toyo 28-80 f/3.5 & Makinon 35-105 f/3.5 |
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55 wrote:
| Phalbert wrote: |
I find the constant f3,5 for the 28-80 interesting. Should I start looking for one ? Sure, It's Christmas time. |
Of course you should, Phalbert. 
Just don't expect miracles from it.
| Pancolart wrote: |
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Not due stellar performance but fun. Flares, distortions, macro as soft focus effect. |
Exactly. My Toyo 28-80 f/3.5 isn't a perfect pixel peeping lens, but I enjoy owning and using it anyway. |
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Phalbert
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| Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Toyo 28-80 f/3.5 & Makinon 35-105 f/3.5 |
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Phalbert wrote:
| 55 wrote: |
| Phalbert wrote: |
I find the constant f3,5 for the 28-80 interesting. Should I start looking for one ? Sure, It's Christmas time. |
Of course you should, Phalbert.
Just don't expect miracles from it.
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Not due stellar performance but fun. Flares, distortions, macro as soft focus effect. |
Exactly. My Toyo 28-80 f/3.5 isn't a perfect pixel peeping lens, but I enjoy owning and using it anyway. |
Ya. Actually I'm not too much worried about sharpness. I like biggish heavy manual focus lenses (like the Viv S1 35-85/2, But is the Toyo not the same as the Makinon ? There is one right now on ebay but the seller doesn't ship outside the US... 😕
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Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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55
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| Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:44 am Post subject: Re: Toyo 28-80 f/3.5 & Makinon 35-105 f/3.5 |
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55 wrote:
| Phalbert wrote: |
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But is the Toyo not the same as the Makinon ? There is one right now on ebay but the seller doesn't ship outside the US... 😕 |
They appear to be the same lens, but I don't have any documentation.
For what it's worth, I've seen some copies of this 28-80mm with 67mm filter threads and some with 72mm. Apart from that though, they appear similar. |
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Phalbert
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Phalbert wrote:
Thanks 55. Before reading this thread I had never even heard of 28-80 with a constant f3,5. There were the 2,8 - 4 in many brand flavours, and then a few 35-105 f3,5. So the 72mm filter ring was to be expected, but 67mm is even more of a feat for the time. Thanks again.
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My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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