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M42 Rikenon 1.4/55mm CONVEX rear, Tomioka but not COSINA ?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

memetph wrote:
In term of focusing and dof , 1.4 is difficult to master anyway. I stopped looking for a 50 1.4 sharp WO.

Exactly.

From my personal observation only KMZ Zenitar-M 50/1.7 and Rollei HFT Planar 50/1.8 are usable wide-open.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pancolar 50 f1.8 is also good option for a wide open good performance lens. I had the Rikenon 55 f1.4 with flat rear element, it's a good lens, it can be perfectly used wide open in an aps-c 16mpx sensor. I also had a Chinon 55 f1.4 that I believe is a good performer too. Any of them have the general sharpness of a Pentax 50 f1.2 (wich is the lens I use to compare all others). Neither Pancolar has the resolution at f1.8 or f2 that the Pentax has at f1.4.

This is from Rikenon 55 f1.4




100% crop


This is Chinon 55 f1.4


Pancolar wide open (not the same day of the Chinon picture, it was a cloudy day)


Pancolar vs Pentax 1.2
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99303340@N05/sets/72157658807502714

Pentax (left) vs Chinon (right) f1.4 both, 100% crop
center

corner


PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, my CZJ Pancolar MC 50/1.8 must be a lemon. It's wide-open sharpness is kind of disappointing.

CZJ Pancolar MC 50/1.8 @f/1.8


PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's bad, what shutter speed you used?


PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

antico wrote:
I don't think it's bad, what shutter speed you used?

1/80 sec, it was a handheld quickie but still...


PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a post showcasing the Konica Hexanon AR 57 f/1.2 which has outstanding wide open results. For those in search of wide open performance.

Another very good 50 f/1.4 prime is the Nikon Nikkor-SC. My current favorite Japanese nifty-fifty. (Haven't tried any CZ or Russian lenses yet.)
It has no weaknesses.

DSC05299_Nikon Nikkor-SC 50mm f1.4 by wNG 555, on Flickr


As for the 55 f/1.4 being discussed, here's a wide-open sample from the Mamiya/Sekor flat-rear version, which is the same lens by Tomioka.

DSC05264_Mamiya-Sekor 55mm f1.4 b by wNG 555, on Flickr


PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My copy of the Sears isn't that good wipe open, with a touch of veiling flare. By f/2 it's nice and sharp.

Zeeke wrote:
Can anyone tell me which on is better wide open,some say that the 55mm f1.4 is very good and some say that they are soft and glowing wide open.I want to try one and what I read Sears seems to be good ones.Price has risen and is it really better then the Takumar 50