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ChrisLilley
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This comparative review at 28mm seems to show the Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AIS as consistently better than the Nikkor 28mm f/2. (text in Italian). Particularly with smeared edges, which relates to the findings in this thread, too.
The 'pro' zoom 17-35 also comes off rather poorly in that test.
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ChrisLilley
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Lens comparison: Nikkor 2/28 vs Distagon 2.8/28 |
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| Orio wrote: | | The newly grounded Nikkor 28mm suggested me to try it face to face with my main 28mm lens, the Distagon. |
What vintage of 28/2 is this - there were non-AI, AI and AI-S versions, and some versions had design changes during their lifetime. I checked on your lens list but there are no details (in fact its not listed).
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Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light (lenses in use)
Camera: Nikon D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 non-AI | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 non-AI | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Laurence wrote: | | Orio, the differences are remarkable. On the antennae images, do you think some of that might be camera shake? |
The centre frame does not show such problem, if it was camera shake then the whole image would be blurred.
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Lens comparison: Nikkor 2/28 vs Distagon 2.8/28 |
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| ChrisLilley wrote: |
What vintage of 28/2 is this - there were non-AI, AI and AI-S versions, and some versions had design changes during their lifetime. I checked on your lens list but there are no details (in fact its not listed). |
It is a Nikkor-N Auto with scalloped focusing ring.
I think it's pre-AI
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LENSES: Russian, Zeiss, Leitz, old Nikkors.
DSLR: Canon 5D, 400D. SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM, Nikon FM2, Canon 50E, Contax 167MT.
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| ChrisLilley wrote: | This comparative review at 28mm seems to show the Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AIS as consistently better than the Nikkor 28mm f/2. (text in Italian). Particularly with smeared edges, which relates to the findings in this thread, too.
The 'pro' zoom 17-35 also comes off rather poorly in that test. |
Yes, corners seem to be a weak point in the 2/28
Mine is older than the one used for the test.
My Nikkor-N 2/28 is not a sharp lens, but I like the output. It's a bit dreamy but it has a personality that comes out of moody subjects, and when sharpness is not the issue, it can be useful. I think for instance of marine landscapes, or churches, subjects where you like the picture to have a certain mood.
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Main Tools:
LENSES: Russian, Zeiss, Leitz, old Nikkors.
DSLR: Canon 5D, 400D. SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM, Nikon FM2, Canon 50E, Contax 167MT.
RANGEFINDERS: Contax G2, Canonette QL17. MEDIUM FORMAT: Pentacon 6, Zeiss Super Ikonta.
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ChrisLilley
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Lens comparison: Nikkor 2/28 vs Distagon 2.8/28 |
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| Orio wrote: | | ChrisLilley wrote: |
What vintage of 28/2 is this - there were non-AI, AI and AI-S versions, and some versions had design changes during their lifetime. I checked on your lens list but there are no details (in fact its not listed). |
It is a Nikkor-N Auto with scalloped focusing ring.
I think it's pre-AI |
OK so this one. 9 elements in 8 groups, has NIC, no CRC.
Thanks for the clarification; your report had quite shocked me how bad the Nikkor was. Hopefully the later models (and the f/2.8) are better.
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Camera: Nikon D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 non-AI | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 non-AI | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron) 70-210 f/3.5 | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai |
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Later model Nikkor 28cm f2.8 close focus (20cm) has 5 star rating almost any review.My favorite is 24mm f2.8 AIS.
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mjkerpan
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| Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| ChrisLilley wrote: | This comparative review at 28mm seems to show the Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AIS as consistently better than the Nikkor 28mm f/2. (text in Italian). Particularly with smeared edges, which relates to the findings in this thread, too.
The 'pro' zoom 17-35 also comes off rather poorly in that test. |
No sign of my Series E 28mm f/2.8, though. I'd love to know how it stacks up. |
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