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Leica Summicron 90mm f2 M Early
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:21 am    Post subject: Leica Summicron 90mm f2 M Early Reply with quote

Hi,
I am not a Leica expert, can you please point me to a picture of the lens used to take the photographs in this gallery?

https://flashbackcamera.jp/photogallery/products/012295_leica_summicron_90_2_m_early/

Thank you.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most probably this one: https://goo.gl/AVi5bU
As it's called "early" and this is the first version.
IMHO the old Elmarit has the better price/quality relationship and it's not as huge and heavy: https://goo.gl/Xq931w
At least I prefer it over the old Summicron and wouldn't change.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 4 versions of the M 90 Cron, I believe the first two are the ones referred to.
https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Summicron_(I)_f%3D_9_cm_1:2
Number of elements /groups - 6 /5


https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Summicron_(II)_f%3D_9_cm_1:2
Number of elements /groups - 6 /5


https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/90mm_f/2_Summicron-M_III
Number of elements /groups - 5 /4


https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/90mm_f/2_ASPH_Apo-Summicron-M Which I have and love.
Number of elements/groups - 5 /5


The link you posted has a link to this page http://flashbackcamera.jp/leica/lens-1/012295-leica-summicron-90-2-m-early.html


I just found out they made a preset version.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all replies.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there any significant performance differences? Is there a version that's most desirable...as well as maybe a version that's least desirable for a significant reason? I know subjectivity always comes into play, but as I say 'significant' as sometimes there are obvious reasons the majority of people avoid or prefer something.


PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the 90/2? Walter Mandler was the designer for the early designs, he has a large following. https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1294615 https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/ https://lhsa.org/2018/08/why-are-leica-lenses-the-best-in-the-world/
or Leica in general?
Most Leica lenses in general are good performers, though some are stellar and others are average, it usually doesn't take more than a few minutes of searching to get a consensus on a particular lenses strengths or weaknesses,


PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justtorchit wrote:
Are there any significant performance differences? Is there a version that's most desirable...as well as maybe a version that's least desirable for a significant reason? I know subjectivity always comes into play, but as I say 'significant' as sometimes there are obvious reasons the majority of people avoid or prefer something.


Generally speaking the newer, the better, but also the most expensive ones. The present Summicron 90/2 is apprx. EUR/USD 4.000.- new. The present Apo-Summicron M 50/2 ASPH is most probably the best lens on earth, but also awful expensive.
When talking about the old ones, the old Summicron built from 1958 to 1980 is worse than the Elmarit 90/2.8 built from 1959 to 1974 when compared at same apertures.
That was for me reason enough to go for the Elmarit instead, besides that the Summicron is a really heavy beast which I don't really want to carry around when hiking.

I can't afford the new but I really like the old ones. These lenses are still very nice performers, even for todays standards and still available at a good price/quality relationship when bought used.