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Attila
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| A G Photography wrote: |
Then there are the real problems like the high humidity and permanent haze of my region during summer that makes landscape shooting a futile exercise. Of course the rare clear windy days were always been when I was at work (grrrrrrrrr) |
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Orio
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| A G Photography wrote: |
Then there are the real problems like the high humidity and permanent haze of my region during summer that makes landscape shooting a futile exercise. |
Use the almighty Photoshop 
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Attila
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Prometheus
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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Prometheus
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| A G Photography wrote: | | Then there are the real problems like the high humidity and permanent haze of my region during summer that makes landscape shooting a futile exercise. Of course the rare clear windy days were always been when I was at work (grrrrrrrrr) |
Youre kidding? Clear days ar the worst nightmare for landscapes in my opinion! I pray for fog.
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Some of the best ones
Nikkor 35mm f1.4 AIS F5.6
#1 before post process
#2 after post process
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Prometheus
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Aha, I see I misunderstood about processing - this is what I normally do with my raw. Adjust contrast, scale (possibly rop) , sharpen, add my signature.
But to take a good landscape in the middle of a clear sunny day is almost impossible, dont you think? It's so harsh light.
I'm participating in a contest in sweden where you take one shot a day for a week. I do most photos at dawn and sundown! It was a haaard week. But the contest is going good though, and I'm really proud of the result. I can show you when the votings over next saturday.
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps at early morning lights are better to take pictures.
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Orio
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I think the white balanced that leans to yellow makes the picture a bit muddy. You can see the problem in Photoshop if you go to "selective colour" and change the values as in the screen grab, just rebalancing the yellow channel gives more depth and "air" to the picture, at least this is what I personally think:
I have this yellowing problem with several of my Nikkor lenses, they put a warm cast on my pictures, so when I use them I always set a cooler white balance in the camera to compensate.
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A G Photography
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Yep early morning and late afternoon are the best hours to take outdoor shots because of the more diffused light.
Btw, the almighty photoshop can recover some haze using curves 
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Orio wrote: | I think the white balanced that leans to yellow makes the picture a bit muddy. You can see the problem in Photoshop if you go to "selective colour" and change the values as in the screen grab, just rebalancing the yellow channel gives more depth and "air" to the picture, at least this is what I personally think:
I have this yellowing problem with several of my Nikkor lenses, they put a warm cast on my pictures, so when I use them I always set a cooler white balance in the camera to compensate. |
Thank you!
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Orio
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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You're welcome. I think that the general preference for warmer colours can make some problems in the landsdcapes as it can "kill the air". I personally prefer to have some cooler tones in the mid day (which by the way looks more natural) and have warmer tones only in the sunrise and sunset.
Especially the yellow can be heavy on the grass making it look flat.
If you look at the corrected picture, I think you can perceive more the "3D" of the foreground compared to the lake.
OF course you can also increase saturation a bit because Nikkor lenses sometimes need a help with saturation:
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Barata
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| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:57 am Post subject: New to the forum. Please be gentle... |
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Hi.
I'd like to know what's the sharper wide angle lens, between f/9 and f/16.
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lahnet
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| Attila wrote: | I think so, no great landscape photo without post processions.
Is anybody can share his experience here ? |
I think perspective is very impotent and often underrated. Take for instance this photo from Kerry Ireland. Nothing to show the "greatness" of this landscape until you see the houses.
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peterqd
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| lahnet wrote: | | Attila wrote: | I think so, no great landscape photo without post processions.
Is anybody can share his experience here ? |
I think perspective is very impotent and often underrated. Take for instance this photo from Kerry Ireland. Nothing to show the "greatness" of this landscape until you see the houses. |
That's a wonderful shot of this bleak coast Henrik. I think you're completely right about the houses pinning the scale. I've posted this picture before, but again the buildings show how important it is to include something to give a sense of scale and distance.
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