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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: Kowa 6 pics |
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Katastrofo wrote:
This is my first effort in medium format:
This is using Fujicolor Pro 400 film. The indoor tank shot shows a lot of noise and I didn't use a flash.
Bill
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Doesn't matter the noise. They have something magical.
I like them much, Bill!!!
What camera is it? I don't know it (my knowledge of MF is very limited) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
What camera is it? I don't know it (my knowledge of MF is very limited) |
Orio here it is:
Comes with 85mm f2.8 standard lens. It's a big one too, takes 67mm
filters I need to get.
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The tree picture is a masterpiece. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
The tree picture is a masterpiece. |
Orio, you're too kind, it's the view off my front porch. That oak tree
has been around before the Civil War and I measured it again and it is
6 and 1/2 feet at the base! The limbs you see down around it, were from
a wind storm the night before.
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The indoor tank shot shows a lot of noise and THANKS GOD you didn't use a flash.
You would have ruined it completely.
Like it is now, it is a magic box. Part alien part dreamlike. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
katastrofo wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
The tree picture is a masterpiece. |
Orio, you're too kind
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No I'm not.
I don't speak lightly, I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it. That photo is a masterpiece. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Well, the tree shot was from my first roll of film where I didn't have an
exposure meter to help me with the settings....guess it was a lucky
shot! It looked much better when I converted it to greyscale. Thanks,
Orio, for the compliment, but the tree I think, has a magic all its own.
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
katastrofo wrote: |
Well, the tree shot was from my first roll of film where I didn't have an
exposure meter to help me with the settings....guess it was a lucky
shot! It looked much better when I converted it to greyscale. Thanks,
Orio, for the compliment, but the tree I think, has a magic all its own.
Bill |
The tree looks wonderful (will you show it in full with a pic?), but there is much more to your photo than the tree.
First the composition: the look moves from the tree to the mailbox, and then left again to the faraway house. This zig-zag perspective is a very effective spacial concept, and it is enhanced by the smooth progressive subtle defocusing.
Then the contrast between the huge mass of the tree and these two tiny objects, create a dramatic contrast. It creates a drama out of a landscape.
The big dark branches make the tree look like if it has roots in the sky.
His imposing presence in the foreground contrasts very effectively with the background, which is empty, airy, and full of light.
The two wires in the sky echo the road and create a parallel frontal perspective that contrast with the depth perspective and creates the feeling of a barrier or border. The mailbox enhances this. It reinforces the feeling of the big space down there.
And the BW (by the way: great tones) makes all this timeless.
It's perfect. Remarkable. It's a photograph that one remembers. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I'll take some more shots of the tree, but probably not with the Kowa. Its
85mm lens precludes taking full tree shots from the porch! Unless
I cross the street and take the shot, but then the house would obscure
the tree. I'll be shooting some wide angle lenses on my 35s and will see
what shakes out with that. Spring hasn't quite arrived yet and when the
dogwoods start blooming (#2 pic with the bokeh) I'll be posting pics
of those. I plan on visiting a Japanese water garden in April and taking
lots of pics, one of my favorite types of places.
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I vote for second one ! That is my style All shoots are great ! _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The tree picture is one that I am never tired seeing. I go back to it again and again and it always looks fresh. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks much, for your comments, guys! Hope to post more in a little
bit. I think I like medium format a lot! There are some different
challenges to it, namely mastering (at least for me) the mirror viewfinder.
Bill |
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
My first camera was Pentacon Six I sold out and bought an Praktica MTL 5B. It was great filling to use medium format camera. It was 20 yrs before. _________________ -------------------------------
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Actually, back in 1963 when I was 13 was my first medium format TLR
by Kodak! I only used it for a couple of years and went on to 35mm.
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Himself
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Kowa is a beautiful and reliable camera.
I like the three/oak/ very much and the fact that is so old, man you have a real historical fortune in front of your porch. There must be a law who protect it.
The green from the fish tank is a lil bit blown out.
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Himself wrote: |
Kowa is a beautiful and reliable camera.
I like the three/oak/ very much and the fact that is so old, man you have a real historical fortune in front of your porch. There must be a law who protect it.
The green from the fish tank is a lil bit blown out.
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Sorin, I'm very happy with this camera! The tank pic could use a little
better focus, too, but this is the most life-like image I've done where the
colors are what I see looking at it. The foliage in the tank looks abit hot
to the naked eye, due to the compact fluorescent lighting I have over the
tank.
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
This is from the 3rd roll I've shot through the camera. Film is Arista,
ISO200 B&W. Shot at either f2.8, 1/60; or f4 at 1/30. Handheld, and I'm
having a little problem with focusing.
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The medium format has always something special.
I must take the plunge and buy a MF camera myself.
What about the Pentacon Six?
What do you think of it?
It would have the advantage over other brands, of me having already three lenses for the mount. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Pentacon Six would probably be an excellent choice, especially for
Europeans that don't have to pay for cross-the-pond postage! I wonder
how Attila liked it when he had one....
Here's another, shot at either f/4-1/30 or f2.8-1/60.
I need to get focusing down with this heavy camera....
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I loved my Pentacon Six twenty years before.I bought as new from a shop, I never had any problem with this camera. I heard from some people hard to find good Pentacon Six nowadays , many of them frequently overlap film etc.
Couple of weeks before I bought a Pentacon SIX with CZJ Flektogon 50mm f/4 lens , because was cheap and looks brand new.At the first time I thought I will shoot with film again and keep it. I never shoot any single roll with that just sold on Ebay separate lens and camera body. Why ? I am satisfied with my digital cameras I wouldn't shoot with P6 again. I bought many film cameras with lenses for lens itself. I wouldn't shoot with film again , I left them in the shop or just bring to home and never took out.
Sorry friends I am not film camera fun any more. I have Praktica MTL5B (this was my first 35mm camera) , Praktica VLC3 2 pcs, Pentax SP 1000, Altix, Zenit-E Olympic edition and Zenit-3M (pretty I like it).
I really wish a NIKON FA camera even if blaster only. Because my name abbreviation in Hungarian is FA (Fricz Attila). _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Never mind the focusing!!
This is excellent photography.
How is it that you can put so much soul in a photo? Is it you, the camera, the lens, the model, or a combination of the four, most probably.
You know? You should never sell this camera. In your hands, it delivers magic results.
Which lens are you using on it?
P.S. Your daughter is so much photogenic. She's a dream model, she makes any picture look so deep. I want to hire her as a model, please ask her herhourly fee!
P.P.S. I don't know why but when I see your pictures made with this camera, I always think of movies, of 60s and 70s movies, the road movies, "new hollywood" kind, Monte Hellmann and Peter Fonda and The Last Picture Show, and Robert Altman.
Keep them coming!!! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I loved my Pentacon Six twenty years before.I bought as new from a shop, I never had any problem with this camera. I heard from some people hard to find good Pentacon Six nowadays , many of them frequently overlap film etc. |
So you could advice it?
Is it difficult to mount film on it?
I would only need a wide angle for it.
I already have the Volna-3 80mm, the Jupiter-36B 250mm. and the CZJ Sonnar 300mm
A wide angle and perhaps a short tele, around 120-180mm _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I don't know why but when I see your pictures made with this camera, I always think of movies, of 60s and 70s movies, the road movies, "new hollywood" kind, Monte Hellmann and Peter Fonda and The Last Picture Show, and Robert Altman.
Keep them coming!!! |
With the tree picture I keep waiting for Cary Grant to come out to collect the mail from the box |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio,
She's not my daughter, she's the cashier at the music store I work as a
private contractor. Her father runs the propulsion lab for the NASA
shuttle program, a position he got after the shake-up over the Challenger
mishap. A very stressful job...
Ashley will be 18 in a week, still 17, and yes, she makes a good model.
I told her to wear a better shirt the next time I bring my camera in.
I won't sell this camera, it is built like a tank, weighs like a tank, but
everything is mechanical, no batteries, I love it.
I know I can shoot a sharper pic, the tree is much sharper, anyway.
Bill
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