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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7554 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
rbelyell wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
still under development... 99,9% chance is will never go to production. |
and 99,9% chance it will be (much) more expensive than A7 series. If I have budget, I will buy a Leica M 240 which is available now. |
it would make zero business sense to price this product anywhere near the M240. and it should be more expensive than the sony A series because its brand new tech and a totally different focusing system-- like comparing apples and cows. |
Where is the new tech?
The digital rangefinder on this new camera works similar to a optical rangefinder. The only difference is it capture the secondary image through an secondary image sensor and overlay the image to the optical viewfinder. In a optical rangefinder, the image is projected from second window to the optical viewfinder via mirror and beam-splitter. Please correct me if I am wrong. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
first, i'm not certain we know exactly what the vf will technically incorporate. second, if it was a matter of 'only' this or that, and its so simple a child could do it, why has no one done it? it easy to be an 'arm-chair quarterback', especially without complete information. personally, never having built anything of significance myself, i have a healthy respect and admiration for those who do.
EDIT, from the link in the next post:
''One of the most interesting features of the Konost FF is the way in which it achieves digital rangefinder focusing. Rather than using a traditional rangefinder mechanism, the camera instead features a secondary image sensor, the round window next to the lens. The image this produces is calibrated to the lens position and then electronically displayed as the rangefinder focus patch in the optical viewfinder.
This approach cuts manufacturing and maintenance costs, while still allowing users to compose shots using the optical viewfinder, and manually focus the camera in typical rangefinder fashion by ensuring the images line up with each other. Rangefinder traditionalists will also be pleased to note that the Konost FF will use M-mount lenses and that the camera is being designed around the idea of simple manual controls.'' _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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cyrano
Joined: 15 Feb 2013 Posts: 855 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:47 pm Post subject: Some more info. |
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cyrano wrote:
http://www.gizmag.com/konos-ff-digital-rangefinder-full-frame/36282/
Talking about having one working prototype and a release date sometime next year. _________________ A whole bunch of stuff. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Interesting that they are working on APSC and 1" versions too. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5028 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:16 am Post subject: Re: Some more info. |
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kansalliskala wrote:
cyrano wrote: |
http://www.gizmag.com/konos-ff-digital-rangefinder-full-frame/36282/
Talking about having one working prototype and a release date sometime next year. |
their biggest problem is that they should have in now on the market and well cheaper than Leicas _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
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cyrano
Joined: 15 Feb 2013 Posts: 855 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Some more info. |
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cyrano wrote:
kansalliskala wrote: |
their biggest problem is that they should have in now on the market and well cheaper than Leicas |
I agree but they have to start somewhere, kudos for trying. The idea that this could be done is encouraging to say the least. As long as the old wide angle lens issues were properly resolved. It will be done eventually,by someone, it's just a matter of time. Which is a precious commodity in the fast changing digital world. We may all be using holograms before this gets issued onto the market.
2k or under and it will sell,I'm sure. _________________ A whole bunch of stuff. |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
cute, but I'd think that it would look a bit less so with the lens mounted the photo seen on the LCD was taken with _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:56 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The picture is Phil Jones of Man Utd tackling Luis Suarez of Liverpool at Old Trafford. The other two players are Chris Smalling and Jordan Henderson. The picture was probably taken on a Canon or Nikon DSLR with a 2.8/80-200 or similar. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5028 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:58 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
It is a 3D computer model not a real-world mock-up?
I think the viewfider looks most fake, that can't be lit like that in real world. The artist has put a little lamp inside to show the cute construction. In real world one couldn't see the internals.
How much of the picture is modelled and what part is real. Is the lens real or modelled? _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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Snodge
Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 163 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Snodge wrote:
Linking to the Konost image on Facebook, I think they have machined at least one!
Note: I would have told this to display it smaller, but I can't get the width paramater for the img tag to work...
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