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hoanpham
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:19 am Post subject: Konica Hexanon 100mm f2.8 EE. 2nd version, w samples |
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hoanpham wrote:
Konica Hexanon 100mm f2.8 EE, 2nd version, all metall build.
Using with nex5n.
I have use this lens just a few times, but keep looking back the images... due to it's buttery bokeh.
First time use, a mix between f2.8 and f4, but if I remember correct, these images are at f4.
no PP. WB set to daylight in nex5n - Before noon, I like the light as is.
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Arctures
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Arctures wrote:
Excellent painting on a 5n! Beautiful bokeh too. _________________ Sony A7, NEX-5n, Panasonic GH5(Oly12-40/2., Contax Distagon T* 28/2.8, Contax Planar T* 50/1.4, Contax T* 80-200/4,
Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
Canon FD 135/2.5 SC, Auto Topcor 135/3.5, Pentax SMC 55/1.8, Minolta 35/2.8, Minolta MD 35-70/3.5 |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
The tipical hexanon's short tele rendering. My 85/1,8 did in the same way. Not excesive contrast very good sharpness and something cooler the colours. Congrats!!
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
I did say WOW when chiming the first image from this lens.
and recently another WOW with the hexanon 85.
Both mine are all metal build.
I should collect them many years earlier when they were cheaper. |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
very nice hoan. i had not seen samples from this lens before. very smooth and good color.
tony _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:53 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I very much like the rendering. Nice shots. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:10 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Thanks Woodrim.
At first I though some of the images was wide open at f2.8, but examine closer, and more test shots, they are all at f4. The sharp edges in bokeh highlight rending were well hidden for this lens. In certain distances, the hexagon bokeh still visible.
Hi Tony,
I was surprised how this lens was rending the bokeh highlight. 100mm was not the most used focal for me since they are both hard-to-find and some what pricy. I tend to pay for an 85mm than for a 100mm. F4 is just perfect for 100mm.
I also have some more samples for you to see how this lens rending in different f-stops. Wide open will be later. All images taken with the nex5n, no PP, colors are a bit warmer, but I like it very much.
#1 At f8
#2 At f8
#3 At f8
#4 At f5.6, 4-6 feet/1.5-2m distance
#4 At f5.6, 100% crop
#5 At f5.6, about 4 feet/1.3m
#6 At f4, about 4 feet/1.3m
#7 At f4, 6-7 feet/2-2.5m but closer background distance
#8 At f4, 7-10feet/2-3m distance, Both subject and background are in typical portrait distances.
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
hoan this is pretty impressive, maybe more so than the 85/1.8? bokeh even at f8 seems very nice. lens also seems to have very narrow DOF even at 5.6. i just bought one yesterday for very good price, i hope i like it better than the 85...
tony _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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'buy me a drink, sing me a song,
take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long' |
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hoanpham
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Congrats Tony!
I haven't play much with the hexanon 85/1.8, but first impression is good.
Without compare directly, I think 100mm at f5.6 and 85mm at f4 is the best for portrait distance, at least my style of shooting.
I like 85mm at f4 because I would like to have a slightly background context, not just completely blurred out.
The flowers photos are typical portrait distances. The bumblebee has 4-6 feet/1.5-2m distance. MFD of the 100mm is about 3 feet/1m. #5 and #6 is about 4 feet/1.3m. #7 is 6-7 feet/2-2.5m.
I also have the Olympus 100mm/2.8 not MC that haven't been used much, and the Pentax M 100/2.8 which had been my trusted lens for years. Pentax too has no hash edges in bokeh, but it has more visible shape. A few steps back with the 100mm, it's like 85mm f2. And FYI, I also got the J9 silver, 7/10 condition, in m39 but with m42 ring - my first russian. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
The hexanon 85 is sharp from 2,8 and better at f/8-11.
Medium contrast.
The 100 is an animal of different specie. Another formula.
The 100 rendering is similar to the minolta 100/2,5.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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hoanpham
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Beautiful samples, people usually pass Konica Hexanons which is silly , Konica was one of the oldest factory in Japan and top maker. You did prove it with this series , beautiful pictures! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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hoanpham
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Thanks Attila,
With the right distances the lens is just awesome.
I didn't know that I can use f8 with a 100mm to give the result of #1 from second series.
#3 hasn't the same 3D effect as #1 until I view the photo in full screen.
At f8, I need to plan the distances, but at f5.6 and f4 the outcomes just... nice.
I like f5.6 most, as the background is not washed out too much.
Funny is I had only shot very few photos at wide open, and just focus on f4, f5.6 and f8 - very unlike me |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Lenses usually perform best at F8, I always use them F8-F11 if I can and very helpful to get surely sharp image. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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fermy
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Beautiful samples, people usually pass Konica Hexanons which is silly , Konica was one of the oldest factory in Japan and top maker. You did prove it with this series , beautiful pictures! |
I wish they did, then I would have bought a lot more of Hexanons
Btw, when I tested lenses with test charts, I found that f5.6 is the optimal aperture for most good lenses 100mm and below. Beautiful images indeed and the lens is a cracker for sure. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/96060788@N06/ |
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Excalibur
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
VG results from another Hexanon lens that I'll probably never buy because of silly prices _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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hoanpham
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:54 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
There is almost no "konica ar hexanon" in the local ad, once or twice a year.
I wish people jump over hexanon as well. |
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