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konica 50 1.4 vs 1.7 vs 1.8 ...to clarify !
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
............The 1.7/50 is earlier and a better lens all-round; larger, heavier and much more solidly built, made by Konica themselves and is one of the very best 50mm lenses available, I'd always chose this one over the 1.8/50...........Personally, I'd go for the first version of the 1.7/50 with the large recessed front element, it's a stunning lens, especially in sharpness.


+100.

You said what I wanted to say too.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only one thing about the old 1,7/50 hexanon lens. It should be more contrastier, but a great len, as was said before.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Apoligize. Didn't see the image of the lens. AFAIK, in my tests, the better is the one with little letters in the filter ring.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! I'm wondering if you guys are the same guys from the old Konica mailing list. I miss that list.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emaq wrote:
Wow! I'm wondering if you guys are the same guys from the old Konica mailing list. I miss that list.



This is the one I visit:-

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/konicaslr/


PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emaq wrote:
Wow! I'm wondering if you guys are the same guys from the old Konica mailing list. I miss that list.


Well, I've been a member of that list for many years. Regretfully, things seem to have come to a virtual standstill there for the past year or so. I realize that only so much that can be said on the same subject over and over again, but the camaraderie on the list was one of the nicest things about it. It had lots of guys whose experience went back decades and who were always eager to share their knowledge with newcomers to the system. I suspect most remain lurkers since hardly anyone ever asks for advice anymore.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on the EE 1.7/50, looks identical to mine, she will serve you very well.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi !

Getting an old post back on top, but there is something I sometimes find annoying when I compare the 1.4 and the 1.7 (I own one f1.4, three 1.7, one 1.8 that I sold again and manu other hexanons which I love) : on the 1.4, there is an f2.0 stop between the 1.4 and 2.8 stops. On the 1.7 version, it goes directly from 1.7 to 2.8. Sometimes when you want just a tad more sharpness, it may be a "problem".

About choosing between the 1.4 and 1.7, though, I can't say, really. The fact is, I bought 3 different 1.7s because I intended to "build" one ideal lens from the three and I ended up keeping all three of them because they have their own character and rendering. I don't know why, because they are all of the same version.

All I know is that theses lenses are brilliant. The first legacy lens I bought for my Samsung NX 1000 was a 50/1.7 hexanon. Since then, I started buying more (I have 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8x2, 50/1.4, 50/1.7x3, 135/3.5, 200/4 and would like a 85/1.8 but it's too expensive, unfortunately).

Cheers.
Jay


PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ceedjay wrote:
Hi !

Getting an old post back on top, but there is something I sometimes find annoying when I compare the 1.4 and the 1.7 (I own one f1.4, three 1.7, one 1.8 that I sold again and manu other hexanons which I love) : on the 1.4, there is an f2.0 stop between the 1.4 and 2.8 stops. On the 1.7 version, it goes directly from 1.7 to 2.8. Sometimes when you want just a tad more sharpness, it may be a "problem".


Sometime in the mid 1970s, Konica stopped making lenses with half-stops on the aperture ring. This shift happened earlier on some lenses and later on others. This was a cost-saving measure, the reasoning behind which was that users were more likely to use their cameras in AE mode anyway... So one of your lenses has half-stops, while the other have full stops.
If you're using the lenses for filming, you can remove the spring loaded detent ball under the aperture ring and the ring's movement will then be continuous (try to remove the aperture ring under a piece of cloth. It is tiny and if it falls on a thick pile carpet, good luck finding it again).


PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get one anyway. Hexanon 85 1.8 has become my most used lens on the Sony A7. It flairs a lot, but when it does not I really like the pictures.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konicamera wrote:
ceedjay wrote:
Hi !

Getting an old post back on top, but there is something I sometimes find annoying when I compare the 1.4 and the 1.7 (I own one f1.4, three 1.7, one 1.8 that I sold again and manu other hexanons which I love) : on the 1.4, there is an f2.0 stop between the 1.4 and 2.8 stops. On the 1.7 version, it goes directly from 1.7 to 2.8. Sometimes when you want just a tad more sharpness, it may be a "problem".


Sometime in the mid 1970s, Konica stopped making lenses with half-stops on the aperture ring. This shift happened earlier on some lenses and later on others. This was a cost-saving measure, the reasoning behind which was that users were more likely to use their cameras in AE mode anyway... So one of your lenses has half-stops, while the other have full stops.
If you're using the lenses for filming, you can remove the spring loaded detent ball under the aperture ring and the ring's movement will then be continuous (try to remove the aperture ring under a piece of cloth. It is tiny and if it falls on a thick pile carpet, good luck finding it again).


Hi !

Between 1.4 and 2.0 is one full stop. Between 1.7 and 2.8 is one and a half stop (actually almost 2 stops, really). Sometimes it can be annoying.

Cheers
Jay


PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ceedjay wrote:

Hi !
Between 1.4 and 2.0 is one full stop. Between 1.7 and 2.8 is one and a half stop (actually almost 2 stops, really). Sometimes it can be annoying.

Cheers
Jay


You are right. I should have read your question more attentively. Going to make myself a cup of coffee... Smile


PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi !

No trouble Wink

Made me remember I have a few questions to ask, here. Will think about posting during the week end.

Cheers
Jrme


PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the lens with EE marking, read the above postings and really interested to test this lens, unfortunately the Adapter is still not reached. Sad