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Lena


Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 334
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:08 am Post subject: Just begun my MF adventure - Helios 44M-4 and Sonnar 135/3.5 |
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Hi,
just acquired ( it was an accident! ) my first MF toys and beginning to learn how they work.
Here are my first pictures, any hints and criticism are welcome
Sonnar
Helios
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WolverineX


Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1302 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Just begun my MF adventure - Helios 44M-4 and Sonnar 135 |
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hello and welcome
in the very first post of a new member photos are not shown , anti-spam measure
first tip: be patient with manual lenses and take time to know each new lens
| Lena wrote: | Hi,
just acquired ( it was an accident! ) my first MF toys and beginning to learn how they work.
Here are my first pictures, any hints and criticism are welcome
Sonnar
Helios
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as for photos , i like the hands (could be a bit less dark), others seem a bit unsharp, but that will get better with the usage of lenses, you'll get a routine of hitting the focus spot on
which camera are you using? _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
OM lenses: 24mm/2.8, 28mm/3.5, 35mm/2 , 50mm/1.8, 50mm/1.4, 50mm/3.5 macro, 50mm/2 macro , 90mm/2 macro , 55mm/1.2 ,100mm/2.8 ,135mm/2.8,135mm/3.5,200mm/5, 75-150mm/4 , 500mm/8 reflex , 35-70mm/3.6, 35-70mm/4, 85-250mm/5 , 100-200mm/5 ,Soligor OM 28-80mm/3.5-4.5 , RMC Tokina 80-200mm/4 , Osawa 28mm/2.8 , Vivitar 28mm/2.8 , Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm/3.5 (kiron) , Sigma 24mm/2.8 , Sigma 8mm/4 fisheye , Sigma 300mm/2, Vivitar 90mm/2.8 , Panagor 55mm/2.8 , Tamron SP 90mm/2.5 , Tamron SP 28-80mm/3.5-4-2
m42 lenses : Pancolar 50mm/1.8, Fujinon EBC 55mm/3.5 macro , Tomioka Yashinon 60mm/2.8,Pentacon 29mm/2.8, Pentacon 50mm/1.8, Pentacon auto 100mm/2.8, Pentacon auto 200mm/4 , Helios-44-2 58mm/2 , Samyang 500mm/8, Industar-50-2 50mm/3,5 , tair3-phs 300mm/4.5 , aus Jena 50mm/2.8, Helios 44M-4 58mm/2, Helios 44 58mm/2 , Jupiter-21M 200mm/4 , Mir-1W 37mm/2.8, Industar 61 L/Z 50mm/2.8 ,Helios 40-2 85mm/1.5, Tair 11a 135mm/2.8 , Meyer-Optik Goerlitz Primotar 135mm/3.5, Jupiter37a/3.5, Volna-9 50mm/2.8, Super Macro Takumar 50mm/4, Macro Takumar 50/4, Sirius 18-28mm/4-4.5 , CZJ Tessar 50mm/2.8 , Fujinon 55mm/1.8 , Super Carenar 35mm/2.8 , Cosinon 50mm/2.8 (several 2x converters , macro bellows ) , Soligor 135mm/2
pentacon six lens: czj Flektogon 50mm/4 , Biometar 80mm/2.8 (x2) , czj Sonnar 180mm/2.8
minolta md lens: minolta md 24mm/2.8 VFC , 35-70mm/3.5 , mc rokkor 35mm/2.8, macro rokkor qf 50mm/3.5 , rokkor-x 50mm/1.4, MD tele rokkor 135mm/3.5, tele rokkor 300mm/5.6 , minolta 35-105mm/3.5-4.5 , MD zoom 70-210mm/4.5-5.6, Tokina AT-X 90mm/2.5 , Tokina AT-X 80-200mm/2.8 , sigma 100mm/2.8 , Vivitar series 1 35-85mm/2.8 , Kiron 28mm/2 , Panagor 28mm/2.5 , Tamron 85-210mm/4.5 ,
pentax k lens:SMC pentax-m 50mm/1.4 , SMC pentax-m 100mm/4 macro
nikon manual lenses: Maginon 100-500mm/5.6-7.1, Kiron 105mm/2.8, Tokina AT-X 50-250mm/4-5.6 ,Tokina AT-X 35-70mm/2.8 , Micro-Nikkor 55mm/3.5 , Micro-Nikkor 105mm/2.8 , Micro-Nikkor 200mm/4 , Nikkor 28mm/2.8 AiS , Soligor 200mm/2.8 ,Nikkor 20mm/4, RMC Tokina 17mm/3.5, Tamron 28-50mm/3.5-4.5, zoom Nikkor 35-105mm/3.5-4.5/ El-Nikkors: 50mm/2.8 , 80mm/5.6
Canon FD lenses:Makinon 35-70 , Canon 135mm/2.8 , Canon 70-150mm/4.5 , Canon 50mm/1.4 s.s.c., Canon 50mm/1.8
Konica AR lenses: Hexanon 28mm/3.5, Hexanon 40mm/1.8 ,Hexanon 50mm/1.7, Hexanon 52mm/1.8 , Hexar 135mm/3.5, Hexanon 135mm/3.2 , Hexanon 200mm/3.5
m39 lenses: silver Jupiter-9 85mm/2 , Jupiter 8 50mm/2 , Industar 61 L/D 52mm/2.8
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Lena


Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 334
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm using Nikon D90. |
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iangreenhalgh1


Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 9100
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Lena
I like them all, nice work. First one of stream is my fave.
Helios-44 and Sonnar 135 are two great ones to begin with. _________________ 'The question I would really consider (especially if an amateur and on a budget) is whether or not anyone (including yourself, of course) can tell the difference in any situation for which you will use the lens...and if they can, why are they burying their noses in your prints hard enough to tell the difference instead of responding to the prints emotionally and thinking about what they might mean?' - 2F/2F on apug.org
Digital: Sony NEX-3, Samsung NX100, Canon EOS 450d
35mm SLR: Konica FT-1, Konica FC-1, Konica Autoreflex T, Carena SRH760, Exakta RTL1000, Canon EOS 10qd
35mm VF: Olympus Stylus, Konica C35, Konica A4, Konica MG, Konica MT-9, Ricoh FF-9, Ricoh AF-80
35mm RF: Zorki 6, Kiev II, Kiev IV, Contax IIIa, CZJ Werra III,
Medium format: Franka Rolfix, Mess Ikonta 524/16, Voigtlander Bessa with Skopar 3.5/105, Voigtlander Bessa with Voigtar 3.5/105, Kiev 6C, Century Graphic 23, Ensign Selfix 820, Kershaw 450
MF lenses: Schneider Angulon 6.5/68, Componon-S 5.6/100, C-Claron 4.5/135, Xenar 3.5/105, Mamiya C 2.8/45, Mamiya 2.8/80, CZJ Flektogon 4/50, Biometar 2.8/80, Zodiac 3.5/30, Tominon 4.5/135, Pullin Pulnar 2.8/100
Large Format: Ernemann HEAG Series VII version II 9x12 with Kodak Anastigmat 6.3/170
Konica Hexanons 4/21, 2.8/24, 3.5/28, 2.8/35, 1.8/40, 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 1.8/50, 3.2/135, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 4.5/300, 3.5-4.5/35-70, 4-4.6/28-135, 3.5/35-70, UC 3.5/45-100, 4/70-150, 4/65-135, UC 4/80-200. Hexars 3.5/28, 3.5/135, Konishiroku 2.8/35
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.8/35, Skoparex 3.4/35, Tessar 2.8/50, Sonnar 1.5/50, Biotar 2/58, Pancolar 1.8/50, Cardinar 4/100, Zeiss-Opton Biogon 2.8/35
Meyer/Pentacons 2.8/28, Primagon 4.5/35, Trioplan 2.9/50, 1.8/50, 2.4/50, Primotar 3.5/50, Primotar 3.5/135
Topcon RE Auto Topcors 1.8/58, 3.5/135, 5.6/200
Russians: OKC1-18-1 2.8/18, OKC1-28-1 2.8/28, Jupiter-12 2.8/35, Jupiter-8 2/50, Industar-50 3.5/50, Industar-26M 2.8/50, Industar-22 3.5/50, Zenitar M2S 2/50, Helios-44-2, Jupiter-9 2/85, Jupiter-11 4/135, Tair-3C 4.5/300
Tokina 3.5/17, Nikon Auto Nikkor-N 2.8/24, Nikon Micro-Nikkor-P 3.5/55, Ross Xpress 3.5/4in, Ross Xpress 4/5in, Ross Xpress 4.5/8.5in, Wollensak APO-Raptar 10/541
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poilu

Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10052 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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welcome Lena
very nice series! _________________ T* |
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Arkku


Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1326 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Those were among my first manual focus lenses as well. =) |
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Smoli4


Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 516 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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yes a Helios was my first manual lens that i realized i could fit to a dslr
Welcome and have fun!
the shot of the hands is nice.
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patrickh


Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8427 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Very fine start. You are a prime candidate for the Addiction. LOL
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Lena


Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 334
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:07 am Post subject: |
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I'm afraid you're right
One more issue comes to my mind. I wear glasses normally and I shoot pictures in glasses. Is it better this way or maybe it's a good idea to use the diopter adjustment in the camera? With AF lenses it was not an issue, however now I sometimes have the impression that what I see is not what I get in the picture as far as sharpness is concerned... |
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ChromaticAberration


Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 759 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Yeah just keep getting outside with them, you'll enjoy yourself.
These first samples must have been took at full aperture, probably with both lenses. Unfortunately I do not know the Sonnar well (never used it) but I would say that squirrel pic could have gotten alot sharper, probably even at f/3.5.
Pay attention to exposure, try to use +1 +2 / -1 -2 compensation, the flowers have blown out highlights, time of the day didn't help for sure. Try going there later or earlier in the day with less direct light, the yellows should be much better by then. _________________ flickr deviantArt
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Industar 50-2 50mm /3.5 Jupiter-37A 135mm /3.5 Helios 44-2 58mm /2.0 Pentacon 'Bokeh Monster' 135mm /2.8 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 28mm /3.5 Tamron SP 35-80mm /2.8-3.8 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50mm /1.4 Jupiter-9 85mm /2 Auto Takumar 105mm /2.8 Nikon 55mm /1.2 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 135mm /2.5
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Lena


Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 334
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the hints.
The squirell was shot with f3.5, it was a bit dark under the trees. The lake was at f16, long exposure time and tripod.
Helios was wide open since it was before the adjustment to it was made, now it works and I can adjust aperture, I will keep trying  |
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Lena


Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 334
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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A few more attempts with Helios.
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Pontus


Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 626 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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The picture with the bumble bee is very nice. Keep going! _________________
Cameras: Sony NEX-5N, Sony a900, Minolta Dynax 9Ti, Contax G1 (green label), Fujifilm F31fd
Wide: Hexanon AR UC 15/2.8, Contax 18/4, X-Fujinon 19/3.5, PEN-F 20/3.5, Hexanon AR 21/2.8, Hexanon AR 24/2.8, PEN-F 25/4, Rokkor 28/2.5, MD W.Rokkor 28/3.5, Contax G 28/2.8, Hexanon AR 28/3.5, Hexanon AR UC 28/1.2, SMC Super Takumar 28/3.5
Normal: Contax 35/1.4, Vivitar 35/1.9, Contax G 35/2, Hexanon AR 35/2, SMC Takumar 35/2.8, Hexanon 40/1.8, Contax G 45/2, Contax 45/2.8, X-Fujinon EBC 50/1.6, Hexanon AR 50/1.7, Chinon 55/1.7
Fast: CV 35/1.2 v2, PEN-F 42/1.2, SMC Pentax K 50/1.2, Rokkor MD 50/1.2, X-Fujinon 50/1.2, Hexanon AR 57/1.2, MC Rokkor-PG 58/1.2, FD 85/1.2 SSC Asph
Macro: SMC Super Takumar 50/4, Hexanon 55/3.5, Contax S-Planar 60/2.8, Olympus OM 90/2, Tokina 90/2.5, Yashica ML 100/3.5, MD Rokkor 100/4, Hexanon AR 100/4, CV 125/2.5
Short tele: PEN-F 60/1.5, Leica 75/2 APO, Hexanon AR 85/1.8, Contax G 90/2.8, CV 90/3.5 SL, Contax Sonnar 100/3.5, PEN-F 100/3.5, Olympus OM 100/2, Nikkor AI-S 105/2.5, Nikkor AI-S 105/1.8, Sony 135 STF, Petri 135/2.8, Vivitar 135/2.8 Close Focusing, Hexanon AR 135/2.5, Hexanon AR 135/3.2, Hexanon AR 135/3.5
Tele: Nikkor 200/2 AI, Hexanon AR 200/4, Rokkor-RF 250/5.6, Tamron SP 350/5.6, Rokkor 400/5.6 APO, Rokkor RF 500/8
Zoom: MD Rokkor 24-35/3.5, Hexanon AR 28-135/4-4.6, Hexanon AR 35-70/ 3.5, Hexanon AR 35-70/ 3.5-4.5, Angenieux 35-70/2.5-3.3, Hexanon UC AR 45-100/ 3.5, PEN-F 50-90/3.5, Vivitar 70-150/3.8, Hexanon AR 80-200/4.5, Hexanon UC AR 80-200/ 4, Contax 100-300/4.5-5.6
AF: A collection of Minolta and Sony/Zeiss lenses
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Attila


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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Arkku wrote: | | Those were among my first manual focus lenses as well. =) |
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skida

Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: North East England
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Welcome Lena. Nice shots and good lenses to start the addiction. |
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