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PhantomLord
 Joined: 08 Apr 2013 Posts: 476 Location: Szczecin, Poland
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:11 pm Post subject: Is it a lens separation issue? Vivitar S1 28-90 |
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PhantomLord wrote:
Hi,
I bought on ebay Vivitar Series 1 28-90 f/2.8-3.5 which suppose to be "in beautiful condition, clear optics" etc. However there's something wrong with the inner group of lenses.
The questions are:
1) Is it lens separation issues?
2) Is it going to spread or I could hope it will stay as is?
3) How does it affect quality? (I'm on APS-C if that's important)
The last question will be answered when I received the lens as it was shipped to my sister, but what are yours experience with such matter.
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guardian
 Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1747
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
That appears to be a Komine lens.
http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Vivitar_serial_numbers
This might or might not be relevant. Don't know if Komine lenses have certain "tendencies", if you know what I mean.
Regardless:
I can only offer you my opinion, as I hope other contributors will do. I don't like the lens. I think you got "schnookered". If it were me, I would seek to make recovery ASAP if that alternative is available to you.
As for the specifics, that could be separation, or fungus, or a distribution of lubricant over internal surfaces. I lean toward one of the latter two possibilities. It could even be coating degradation. That's why I posted the manufacturer. Others might know whether Komine lenses have one or more of these predispositions.
Bottom line, though, the lens surely is not as described by the seller, and was wrongly sold as clear. You deserve a refund IMO!! |
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kuuan
 Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4588 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
I agree with Guardian.
I don't like if an inner element of a lens looks 'milky', have had a few which turned out to be kind of 'etched glass' that could not be fixed, they were very difficult to focus, produced very hazy results, actually were rather useless. _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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ForenSeil
 Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2727 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
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| 1) Is it lens separation issues? |
Yes, the white lane on the top side looks like separation
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| 2) Is it going to spread or I could hope it will stay as is? |
Hard to say, might stay like that for years or get unusable and all over milky tomorrow.
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| 3) How does it affect quality? (I'm on APS-C if that's important) |
Yes it does affect IQ. How much exactly is hard to guess. In that small degree it might be neglitable but can be also very present (try it!)
How much did you pay for it? If it was a bargain price and does it still work IQ-wise for you, you should keep it until it dies in dignity and respect. If you did pay a normal or high price, try to get a refund, especially if it was a professional seller.
EDIT: It also looks a little like there's fungus on one if the rear elements? Can you confirm that or is it only looking like that?
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PhantomLord
 Joined: 08 Apr 2013 Posts: 476 Location: Szczecin, Poland
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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PhantomLord wrote:
Thank you guys for replies.
I bought it by normal price and already asked for refund. I cannot test it right away as it's at my sister's home, but will get it in the week. The auction was covered by ebay money guarantee program, so there's no worry about getting refund if seller will turn back.
I just so really wanted this lens for so long that it's a real pity it has some flaws when I finally bought one .
Mateusz _________________ Mateusz
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PhantomLord
 Joined: 08 Apr 2013 Posts: 476 Location: Szczecin, Poland
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:00 am Post subject: |
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PhantomLord wrote:
ForenSeil
About the fungus, the lens is at my sister so I cannot say for sure, but as I asked her, she says lenses are clear. Well, I find out soon as I get the lens. For now, I received partial refund, not so happy about the amount, but have to live with it.
All in all I think I have to shoot the lens and see how it perform, if it's bad then it would be some money wasted on paper weight.
Actually I think about 40% lenses I bought cheaply on ebay, described as "great, clear optics...etc" had some kind of troubles. If it's just fungus at a few elements, stuck aperture or adjusting infinity focus, that's easy to fix. Very often I receive full refund while being able to keep the lens (so the seller knew that something was wrong with the lens from the beginning), nevertheless I always clean the lens up and sometimes I was happy to leave the lens for myself and sometimes I sell it further away with more accurate description.
However I really don't get it, when I'm selling the lens I always attach full size photos taken with the actual lens together with description which says true things, like "it's best at f/5.6, little soft wide open but usable/ or not; great at 70-150mm range, 150-210 it's softer, there's a spot of fungus" and so on and the lenses always sell for reasonable amount of money.
Cheers
Mateusz _________________ Mateusz
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