Industar 61 L/Z or L3-MC

csaba369 · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 38 Location: Hungary

Do you know, what is the difference between them? Or they're the same lenses? I have two L3-MC, both of them incredible performers, but never seen the LZ version. Thanks.
_________________
Sorry for my poor english

Poolhall · Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:16 am Post subject:

Could be the same, I know the 61l/z is multi-coated and m42. L3 looks like it might be a cyrillic version of the same.
_________________
Digital: Pentax and Samsung Dslr's
Film: Pentax and Yashica's and a Minox 35
Lenses: Mostly M42 Pentacon and Russian, Some Yashica,Pentax,Ricoh,and some AF.

themoleman342 · Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 195 Location: U.S.A.

They are the same lens. Here is a sample that has L/Z: Click here to see on Ebay All that it means is that you have two domestic versions of the lens that say something that looks like UHДYCTAP L/З. The ones that will actually have L/Z are the export versions that have "INDUSTAR" in english.
_________________
35mm: zenit B + zenit 122 + praktica FX + sears (ricoh) TLS - chinon 2.8/28mm, mir 10A 3.5/28, pentacon 3.5/30, mir-1 2.8/37, simlar 1.5/50 (ltm m39 - macro work), tessar 2.8/50, industar 50-2 3.5/50, takumar 2/55, sears 1.4/55, helios 44-2 2/58, tair 11A 2.8/135, jupiter 21m 4/200

Med Format: Ikoflex II - triotar 3.5/75

Large Format: 4x5 Custom Pinhole - Wide Angle 75mm

csaba369 · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 38 Location: Hungary

Thank you Poolhall and themoleman342.

I'll post some nice photo with them soon to here.
_________________
Sorry for my poor english

Attila · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 13818 Location: Budapest,Hungary

Nice to see you here again Csaba! I missed your posts...
_________________

Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,2.8/180mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan

Poolhall · Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject:

Just looked at my Industar and its all in Cyrillic like yours Csaba, so it appears I have a Russian rather than an export lens, but as themoleman says they are definately the same piece of kit, great close up lens and very sharp.
_________________
Digital: Pentax and Samsung Dslr's
Film: Pentax and Yashica's and a Minox 35
Lenses: Mostly M42 Pentacon and Russian, Some Yashica,Pentax,Ricoh,and some AF.

csaba369 · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 38 Location: Hungary

I have a lot to do nowadays, excuse me Attila. Here are some pics with the 61 L3-MC. On monday I made a trip on the hills, was a lot rain, low lights, here is the outcome. You can see some noise, but had to use higher iso.

On the second picture you can see a strange bokeh. Yeah, this is industar, I really like it. Usually I hate that modern, creamy bokeh coming out from new lenses. I found only one, what I like, that is the Canon 135/2L. It has a strange bokeh too, if you use it cleverly.
_________________
Sorry for my poor english

Attila · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 13818 Location: Budapest,Hungary

#2 and #3 my choices , #3 good enough for storybook illustration ! Well done!
_________________

Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,2.8/180mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan

csaba369 · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 38 Location: Hungary

Thank you, Attila!
_________________
Sorry for my poor english

themoleman342 · Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 195 Location: U.S.A.

yes! #3 is absolutely gorgeous. For some reason insects don't seem to like my camera and I.
_________________
35mm: zenit B + zenit 122 + praktica FX + sears (ricoh) TLS - chinon 2.8/28mm, mir 10A 3.5/28, pentacon 3.5/30, mir-1 2.8/37, simlar 1.5/50 (ltm m39 - macro work), tessar 2.8/50, industar 50-2 3.5/50, takumar 2/55, sears 1.4/55, helios 44-2 2/58, tair 11A 2.8/135, jupiter 21m 4/200

Med Format: Ikoflex II - triotar 3.5/75

Large Format: 4x5 Custom Pinhole - Wide Angle 75mm

maddog10 · Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 880 Location: Maryland, USA

#3 is very nice.
Almost looks like a little blue person sitting on a leaf (with beautiful wings of course).
_________________
Michael Hill

DSLR: Nikon - D3, D80, D40 Canon- 5D
Film: Nikon - F5, F2, F, EM, FG, FE, Nikkorex Contax - G2 Mamiya - M645 Olympus - OM1 Praktika - LTL PLC3 Pentax - Spotmatic SP Yashica Electro 35 GSN Zenit - B
Nikon Mount Lens: Nikkor - 2.8/20 2.8/24 2/28 2.8/28 3.5/28 2/35 2.8/35 1.4/50 1.8/50 2/50 1.8/85 2/85 2.5/105 2.8/135 3.5/135 2.8/180 4/200 4.5/300 Micro 2.8/55 Micro 4/200 Zoom 3.5/36-72 3.5/43-86 4/70-210 Sigma - Zoom 2.8-4/35-70 Soligor - 3.5-4.5/28-80 4.5/80-200 5.6/95-310 Tamron - SP 2.8-3.8/35-80 SP 3.5/70-210 3.8-4/80-210 Vivitar - 3.8/19 2.8/28 (Series 1) 3.5-4.5/19-35 (Kiron) 3.5/70-210 Zenitar - 2.8/16
Contax Mount Lens: Carl Zeiss - Biogon 2.8/21 Biogon 2.8/28 Planar 2/45 Sonnar 2.8/90 Yashica - 4.5/70-210
M42 Screw Mount Lens: CZJ - Flek 2.8/20 Flek 2.4/35 Tessar 2.8/50 3.5/135 Focal - 2.8/28 Helios - 44-2 2/58 44M 2/58 44M-4 2/58 40 1.5/85 Industar - 50-2 3.5/50 Jupiter - 37A 3.5/135 Meyer Optik Gorlitz - Domiplan 2.8/50 MIR - 24M 2/35 1B 2.8/37 Pentacon - 2.8/29 1.8/50 2.8/135 Pentax - SMC 3.5/135 SMC 4/200 SMC 5.6/400 Rexatar - 6.3/400 Rokinon - 3.5-4.5/35-135 Sears - 2.8/28 2.8/135 4.5/90-230 Soligor - 2.8/105 3.5-4.5/28-80

Orio · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 10940 Location: West Emilia

Nice pictures, Csaba.
_________________
_
ХОРИОС-61 ( ώρεος ) : Lens sana in corpore sano

Main Tools:
LENSES: Russian, Zeiss, Leitz, old Nikkors.
DSLR: Canon 5D, 400D. SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM, Nikon FM2, Canon 50E, Contax 167MT.
RANGEFINDERS: Contax G2, Canonette QL17. MEDIUM FORMAT: Pentacon 6, Zeiss Super Ikonta.
Read Full List HERE
www.timelessphotography.eu
www.oriofoto.net

"Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " (George Orwell)
_

Farside · Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 1748 Location: Ireland

Three good pics to illustrate the lens. I like that type of bokeh, personally. It totally obscures the background and leaves the attention on the subject - which is the whole point.
_________________
Dave

The Lenses of Farside

"The largest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and
prosperity is no longer socialism. It is, instead, the ambitious,
arrogant, unscrupulous ideology of environmentalism."

-- Czech President Vaclav Klaus

poilu · Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 2636 Location: Greece

superb samples csaba369!
I like the bokeh on #2
_________________
Have a nice day